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stepnem
zenwryly: you'd probably better use set-buffer or with-current-buffer for this
zenwryly
stepnem: how's that?
stepnem
just read the docstring of `switch-to-buffer' :P
zenwryly
stepnem: k
stepnem
the WARNING
zenwryly
stepnem: great, thanks
stepnem, shabble: http://dev.plone.org/collective/changeset?new=113350@sandbox/tahoe-sprint-2010/rossp-home/.emacs.d/init.el&old=112984@sandbox/tahoe-sprint-2010/rossp-home/.emacs.d/init.el
stepnem
kewl; now you're only missing a dot in you're function's docstring
(Action) hides
s/you're/your/
ehrm...
zenwryly
hehe
Necos
it was right the first time >.>
         

shabble
zenwryly: cool thanks
jlf
,,...
fsbot
[In the distance, you hear a dog bark]
jordanb
Let's encourage Mac users to stay closeted.
jlf
let's be nonsensical
banisterfiend
,,...
fsbot
[In the distance, you hear a dog bark]
kodein
,yow
fsbot
Quick, sing me the BUDAPEST NATIONAL ANTHEM!!
zenwryly
shabble: yw
e1f
"Should the Google/China spat over censorship start a trade war that puts an end to Chinese-made computers?"
"The United States agreed to lower all its tariffs on high technology manufactured goods to zero, and we agreed to let in all that China could send over here, no questions asked. What is the result of that? The result is that substantially all United States computers are now made in China. We even went so far as to allow the first U.S. PC maker, IBM, to sell its PC division to a Chinese company, Lenovo."
http://arstechnica.com/telecom/news/2010/03/after-google-dustup-should-the-us-ban-chinese-computers.ars
i guess you can have capitalism without democracy
Sketch
i don't know about buying one, but i'm pretty sure you could build a PC that does not have any major parts made in china
"made in japan" has had a bit of a resurgence as of late as a marketing point, due to recent problems with lots of chinese parts
jlf
Sketch: that would be a lot harder if china decides to take taiwan
jordanb
China trying to take Taiwan would be a nuclear event.
Anyway, Taiwan is the primary fencing location for Chinese goods. Most "made in taiwan" things are substantially produced in China.
jlf
jordanb: taiwan has no nukes; are you claiming somebody else would engage in a nuclear war with china over taiwan?
jordanb
The US is committed to it.
We keep a carrier group in the straits so that they would have to attack through it to get to Taiwan.
jlf
you're claiming we'd launch a first strike against china if they invaded taiwan?
jordanb
It wouldn't be a first strike. We would get in a war with them that would escalate to a nuclear exchange.
jlf
i don't see it
jordanb
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Relations_Act
This act also requires the United States "to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character", and "to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan."
The Taiwan Relations Act does not require the U.S. to intervene militarily if the PRC attacks or invades Taiwan, and the U.S. has adopted a policy of "strategic ambiguity" in which the U.S. neither confirms nor denies that it would intervene in such a scenario.
         

twb
I thought the standing agreement was "don't officially claim independence and we won't take that independence away"
jordanb
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_of_deliberate_ambiguity#People.27s_Republic_of_China_.28mainland_China.29_and_Republic_of_China_.28Taiwan.29
^-- More detail
quotemstr
(Action) uses xfig.
jordanb
Me adops a policy of strategic ambiguity on my relationship with gnus.
s/Me/\/me/
quotemstr
jordanb: You neither confirm nor deny Gnus?
:-)
jlf
all that is pretty weak sauce as far as evidence that the us would defend taiwan militarily against mainland china
quotemstr
Is there a way to switch xfig into left-handed mouse mode?
jordanb
xfig
Even dia is better
Althoug Real Nerds (tm) use MetaPost.
dto
hi. i've been working on lisp stuff, and we are having a game design competition . any lisp flavor is welcome! http://dto.github.com/notebook/lgdc.html
quotemstr
(Action) tries Dia.
dto
hi Jordanb, how have you been?
jordanb
Hi.
Does arc count?
What about Javascript? Yegge thinks it's Lisp.
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's left recurse.
quotemstr
Hrm
Dia doesn't seem half bad, actually.
Very gimp-like.
jlf
no, it's not half bad
it's all bad
quotemstr
Compared to *what*?
jlf
every dia session i've started has ended with, "oh, fu*k it!"
Guest95631
is there anyway to lock an emacs frame so nothing can modify the placement/alignment of your windows?
jlf
but the last attempt was a couple of years ago so maybe it's improved
shabble
anyone know what controls hte new frame creation when opening a file from teh Finder in OSX? (for various reasons, it won't accept emacsclient as a program to open-with)
jordanb
Dia is superficially pretty ugly, so I can imagine a mac user flipping their wrist at it.
shabble
dia makes me want to stab myself in the throat.
jlf
ugliness is not the only reason it sucks by a longshot
jordanb
You prefer to do all your diagram making in iDrawStuff, no doubt.
iDrawStuff.app
JordiGH
That's a bad iProduct name.
shabble
the ugly exterior masks an inner core of dysfunctional misery.
JordiGH
It's called iPic.
jordanb
JordiGH: Still better than iPad. ;)
jlf
JordiGH: i use graphviz
JordiGH
(Action) really wants someone to make a bittorrent client called iPatch.
jlf: I am incontinent with joy at this marvelous revelation.
jlf
(Action) edges away from JordiGH
jordanb
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/r-base/+bug/433799
^-- Ubuntu begins Phase II
JordiGH
jordanb: Hahaha...
jordanb: Phase II was in the drawing board for a long time: http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/cancomical-lynchpad
mjrosenb
has anyone ever run into an issue where compile-mode hangs + uses 100% of the cpu?
oh
and C-g seems to make it segv
JordiGH
mjrosenb: Sounds vaguely familiar, like a long-forgotten nightmare.
mjrosenb
JordiGH: sweet.
k-man
in less, is there a way to filter out lines that match a regex?
JordiGH
Uhm, I think it does posix regexps.
h for help, y'know
(POSIX regexps)--
I can't believe that + (one or more matches) isn't POSIX. :-/
k-man
yeah, it can do searches, but i was more after a way to remove from viewing lines that match something or other
JordiGH
k-man: There's an Emacs mode for that...
shabble
k-man: grep -v pattern < file | less?
k-man
JordiGH: oh cool, whats it called?
shabble: yeah, i can do that, but when looking through log files, it would be convenient to itteratively filter out irelevant lines
JordiGH
k-man: I don't know, that was just a raw existence statement, like a non-measurable set, and Banach Tarski.
k-man
imho
JordiGH: oh, thanks ;)
bpalmer
k-man: you can pipe it using | and various mark commands
k-man: but load it in a buffer and use delete-matching-lines/delete-non-matching-lines as you fancy, of course
shabble
k-man: I've been bemoaning hte lack of a good interactive console log viewer in the past.
I'm tempted to hack somethign up in emacs
JordiGH
bpalmer offers the constructive solution.
k-man
shabble: yeah, i've searched for one in the past too and not found one
bpalmer: yeah, thats an approach
JordiGH
log-mode
Has a nice ring to it.
k-man
bpalmer: what is a "mark" command?
JordiGH
Log log it's made out of wood, log log, it's better than bad it's GOOD.
twb
JordiGH: Ren & Stimpy?
e1f
it seems the latest xkcd numbers were "made up"!
JordiGH
twb: You know it, baby.
shabble
e1f
(according to xkcdsucks)
JordiGH
e1f: Google reports different results depending on geoip and other settings.
bpalmer
k-man: man less for the gory details; but basically, in less, type |$ grep -v foo and it will output all the lines without foo from BOF to EOF
e1f
well, the results are off by orders of magnitude
k-man
bpalmer: oh, thats interesting
JordiGH
e1f: Yeah, I've seen that. Whatever, comedy doesn't require veracity.
bpalmer
e1f: you seem to think we are all on the same internet.
JordiGH
e1f: I mean, I've seen different orders of magnitudes in Google results by region lockout.
k-man
bpalmer: but it doesn't put those results back into the buffer you are looking at in less does it?
e1f
so you're saying that people in california get more better google results
let's all work for google to get the best results then
disturb
hi folks
JordiGH
e1f: They get the most betterest results.
disturb
I'm trying to disable xft in version 23, but I'm not sure that's
possible once it's been compiled...
anyone know if this is possible?
k-man
shabble: cool, log4j is part of the emacs lisp package archive
fledermaus
evening
k-man
elpa is something emacs has needed for a long time imho
legumbre_
disturb: maybe add Emacs.FontBackend: x to .Xresources ? untested
k-man
ok, there is some weird sh*t going on with my linux box - about 10 minutes after reboot, things stop working. i am no longer able to ssh in
however process that are running still run fine. ie, i run mythtv on that box and it keeps working fine
legumbre
k-man: your firewall kicking in?
chrisb
.seen dto
birny
dto was last seen talking in #emacs at 2010-03-17 23:52:13 GMT (47 minutes, 11 seconds ago).
dto
hi.
JordiGH
k-man: check the disk, full, corrupt, read only fs?
chrisb
hey
dto
chrisb: sup?
k-man
legumbre: no, i get the same response if i try and login from a vc
JordiGH: yeah, ill have to do that when i get home
chrisb
i'm still looking for a firewire or usb audio card for linux
k-man
as i can't ssh in any more
legumbre
k-man: then I have no idea
chrisb
i was hot on the edirol 25 and they discontinued it
dto
chrisb: how many channels?
M-Audio is the only brand i use
chrisb
2 xlr input, midi
i think its called a 2x2
e1f
your precess table might be filling up with runaways
dto
i have lots of m-audio stuff, a delta 1010, an axiom 49, and a fast-track pro
e1f
what does syslog say
dto
chrisb: I recommend the fast track pro by M-Audio.
chrisb
is the fast-track 2x2?
disturb
legumbre: hmm that doesn't seem to work, thanks anyway
dto
chris: http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/FastTrackPro.html
chrisb
this is just for recording the kids on piano and mixing from a midi keyboard
dto
oh.
well, all the m-audio stuff works with linux. they make something cheaper in the $70 range called the plain Fast Track, and i think something cheaper
legumbre
disturb: oh ok, just checking though, you did xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources after changing it right?
disturb
yup, but with ~/.Xdefaults though
seemed to work fine so far
but I can't really get antialiased fonts to display nicely at
small sizes
so I'm trying to disable it
will try restarting X
thatdavidmiller
Hi, am trying to set up gnus with a google apps account - can send mail fine, but can't seem to recieve any - not seeming to get any error messages either - any ideas for good things to check?
legumbre
disturb: ok, good luck then :)
JordiGH
.g david miller
,g david miller
fsbot
[google] http://www.stanford.edu/~dabm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Miller_(tenor)
JordiGH
Wow, a tenor?
thatdavidmiller
JordiGH: Also mayor of toronto :) http://www.toronto.ca/mayor/
Or just a common name :)
JordiGH
You're a pretty awesome guy.
bob2
thatdavidmiller: that's not a very specificf description of a problem
can it not connect? not see the folders? are they empty?
did you read ,,gnusgmail
fsbot
GnusGmail -- at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?GnusGmail
thatdavidmiller
bob2: have been trying various configurations from the emacswiki page & currently have this http://pastebin.com/GvA3nXZy as my .gnus with the relevant password etc in my ~/.authinfo
bob2
and the error and/or specific problem is ...
JordiGH
,doesn't work
fsbot
Try: doesntwork LpcMode mozex reload http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MetaKeyProblems
thatdavidmiller
bob2: when I send mail to the account & hit g in *group* for check new news I can't see any indication of new mail
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