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tcrawley
Anyone using nxhtml to edit genshii and having problems with font lock ?
hengha
err, which key shortcut can switch the search engine in w3m defined by add-to-list 'w3m-search-engine-alist ? thanks
technomancy
looks like a gauntlet has been thrown: http://github.com/philc/vimium
really looking forward to an Emacs version of that (essentially Conkeror for Chromium)
damd
technomancy: they're working on a scheme browser with webkit
last i heard they were writing the scheme bindings for qt, "sqeme"
the browser is called minno
technomancy
yeah, that's still years away from being finished though, right?
I mean, it's a cool idea, it's just going to take an enormous amount of wark.
damd
i don't know, i guess that depends on what you mean by finished
#minno <- info
technomancy
I would get a lot less irritated over chrome's horrible extension mechanism if it didn't have such an awesome JS/rendering engine
(compared to conkeror, anyway)
damd
conkeror is alright, it's xulrunner i can't stand anymore
not that i have any idea how webkit works...
jim_rees
why does save-excursion no longer preserve my view of the window in emacs 23?
         

technomancy
damd: hint: better than gecko.
it's just frustrating to have to decide between an outdated engine and a horrible extension mechanism.
damd
what's horrible about chrome's extension mechanism?
technomancy
damd: all the built-in UI is hard-coded in C++
if you want to change a keyboard shortcut, bam--that's a two-hour recompile.
damd
are you serious?
technomancy
I wish I weren't.
when I asked about it in #chromium they were like, "Oh, an extension mechanism that would let you alter the built-in UI? That sounds like a terrible idea. Think of all the support requests we'd get."
damd
in these situations i normally think "they probably have good reasons for this", but ...
kenyon
they must get that idea from Apple
technomancy
I was so enraged I could hardly part the channel.
jlf
technomancy: to be fair, that's describing #emacs pretty well :)
technomancy
damd: you'd think the browser with the best JS compiler in the world would be the perfect one to implement its UI in JS, but no...
damd
emacs doesn't have that much UI though
but then again "floating" windows etc just won't happen in emacs i guess
technomancy
well a sane browser would have all its config windows done inside a tab
rather than falling back to this weird modal-dialog-land
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's trickle down.
slaker
Hi all. How would I automatically start emacs in CUA mode?
damd
i think it's on by default in emacs 23
if not, put (cua-mode 1) in your .emacs
slaker
It's not on by default, but thanks, it did the trick
jordanb
Cover Ur Ass Mode.
,cua
fsbot
try: CuaAndIsoTransl CuaLightMode CuaMode ModoCua
jordanb
,cuamode
         

fsbot
CuaMode -- at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CuaMode
damd
well something is on by default in 23, which lets me set the region using shift+arrows
shift-select-mode apparently
slaker
@damd, yes, it looks like that
jlf
let's not infest #emacs with twitterisms
cluck
i dunno if i should feel happy or sad, web browsers (and extensions in particular) are just reinventing emacs (poorly)
legumbre_
RT @jlf let's not infest #emacs with twitterisms
cluck
jlf: is that good enough? or does it have too much content for a tweet?
jlf
legumbre_: i've been meaning to teach fsbot how to issue tweets from tweetingtoohard.com in-channel but i haven't found time yet
jordanb
jlf: That would make you a hero[1]
cluck
technomancy: you don't really care the prefs don't show in a tab, you're just complaining because you don't have a tilling wm :)
jlf
,hero
fsbot
try: AccediendoAFicherosDeWindows cherokee heroin matherotica TheronTlax
jordanb
,[1]
fsbot
[Too many DB matches] [google] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/LineNumbers
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsSpeaksStatistics
jlf
jordanb: i daresay that would give rudybot a run for its money
jordanb
fsbot
jlf
,df identity
fsbot
identity is a built-in function in `C source code'.
(identity ARG)
Return the argument unchanged.
legumbre_
jordanb: do you mean, an hero?
cluck
jlf: you probably just need to require identica mode and use it through the exec
jlf: though your credentials would likely become exposed then
jlf
cluck: i was just thinking of cloning yow and using a different database
the continued unimplementation of which is a sad commentary about my laziness
cluck
oh, you meant READ them out
jlf
yeah.. ,tweet -> random entry
cluck
that's likely just a scrape away (it's not like it's a complex protocol)
if a c64 can do it :P
jlf
yep
vic-20 here dude, still saving for the c64
cluck
be a man, get yourself a zx
speccy ftw!
jlf
ok professor highbrow
cluck
(Action) feels old ;(
jlf
huh, vic-20 was linus' first computer
er, gnu/linus
technomancy
cluck: I'm just saying they should have the decency to be embarassed by their lack of self-hosting.
legumbre
haha
,jlf++
fsbot
Noted, legumbre. One karma-point for jlf!
cluck
technomancy: yeah, and politicians should look out for the people...
... if only the world was as it should!
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's have a six month release cycle.
jlf
there may be a future for rudybot as a middle manager at cisco
wgreenhouse
or canonical. har har har
e1f
(Action) is trying to imagine emacs written by james cameron
wgreenhouse
oh, that's easy. it'd have higher GUI production values and all the shortcuts and interface stuff but no extensibility
it'd be like one of those Emacsesque simple editors
snogglethorpe
god
they suck
jlf
(Action) .oO("µmacs"?)
snogglethorpe
jlf: better than ¬macs?
damd
£macs
legumbre
femtomacs!
snogglethorpe
8
damd
Mmacs
jlf
snogglethorpe: i think epsilon conveys simplicity more than the euro symbol
snogglethorpe
jlf: thus, better
jlf: but the men with sharp suits and tiny phones will like ¬macs
jlf
could be, could be
wgreenhouse
it'll have an RSS feeder that only dispenses low-quality international stock tips and articles on management fads
probably also a GTD (tm) mode
cluck
e1f: that's easy! it would be blue, filled with completely fake alien biotechnology and strangely sexually arousing
e1f
in 3d!
i guess an avatar colour-theme is in order now
jlf
M-x blue-sexy-alien-biotech-mode
legumbre
(Action) wonders how many #emacs people are into avatar LARPing
wgreenhouse
legumbre: the probability of one of us being one of them is rapidly approaching 1
jordanb
I don't know what that is, but it sounds lame.
cluck
is soviet russia Mmacs edits you!
(Action) ducks
e1f
forcer was doing wow larping
WoW
cluck
.oO(sorry, couldn't resist)
e1f
to the point that he had dropped out of irc
legumbre
can you drop out of irc???
fsbot
Of course not!
e1f
he even had photos!
jlf
you know it's bad when irc people are shaking their heads at you
cluck
wgreenhouse: we already have all of those
e1f: the tango theme was dark blueish iirc
jlf: you dirty old geezer! you just want to merge with the alien chick, don't you?!
jlf
(Action) hasn't seen avatar
snogglethorpe
("wow larping"?)
cluck
,g define:larping
fsbot
[google] No match.
cluck
,g larping
fsbot
[google] http://www.larp.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DlpmvFK02jY8
technomancy
"sync with hamburger. all the flavors" <= http://emmy.eviltrailmix.com/AVATAR.gif
snogglethorpe
some canadian peversity i guess
jlf
,larp is live action role playing ... yes, really.
fsbot
Nooo! larp is already something else.. Use 'is also'..
Currently: live action role play
snogglethorpe
hmm, isn't that what got tom hanks killed in the 80s ?!
e1f
no, that was acting
cluck
you can pry my d20 FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!
jordanb
snogglethorpe: So how is the Toyota guy getting disgraced infront of Congress going over in Japan?
snogglethorpe: Will he be expected to commit seppuku now?
snogglethorpe
i think that was the old japan
now he just has to say "oh haha whoops!"
jordanb
Oh right, the method now is jumping in front of a train.
snogglethorpe
god
and what a selfish method is that?!
you know how much delay that causes?!
it takes at least 30 min for them to clean up and get that track running again
jordanb
Probably four, five minutes?
jlf
wasn't there something about him not bowing sufficiently low in an earlier televised apology?
jordanb
Oh. I thought they had train hose-down crews on hot-standby for that.
snogglethorpe
dunno i haven't watched the news in years
jordanb: well it does seem to take them an awful lot less time than in the u.s.
in the u.s., you're luck if the line's back in service by the next day
jordanb
The CTA's procedure is to stand around mubling into their radios for at least an hour and a half.
snogglethorpe
anyway, this happens fairly regularly here, and my estimate is 30 minutes
jordanb
If Cheney were to die, that would be solid evidence that there is a god.
snogglethorpe
(well I guess doesn't actually stop running, just reduce the number of tracks available, but that puts a kink in things)
did you see the cheney strips at bobtheangryflower?
jordanb
No
snogglethorpe
hm, they're bril
jordanb
url?
e1f
in the 19th century would could pay your taxes to the church with beeswax
that's news to me
jordanb
We should bring back the beeswax standard.
snogglethorpe
jordanb: http://www.angryflower.com/cheney.gif http://www.angryflower.com/cheneys.html http://www.angryflower.com/nightg.gif
(there's more too, he's a huge cheney fan)
jlf
i like the part where cheney gets mad
jordanb
gif
snogglethorpe
ha, i thought you'd comment on that...
hm, gee
disney released this nice tech, with a FOSS license!
http://ptex.us/overview.html
jordanb
Let's all eat silver until our skin turns blue to prove our libertarian chops.
Little known fact: The smurfs were all Lispertarians.
That's why there was only one girl in the whole village.
snogglethorpe
and you know she was just waiting for her space marine to come
jordanb
She was really a tg.
Opcode
hey can anyone help me? I've got a file with some non standard characters in it and wheneve I save it, emacs inserts # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- at the top
how can I disable this?
jordanb
Is your locale not utf-8?
jordanb@milhouse:~$ env locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
^-- Should look like that
Opcode
LANG=en_AU.UTF-8
jordanb
Nutty
Opcode
well, I am in australia
jordanb
Dunno then
I mean, yeah, that looks correc.t
Opcode
does that makea d ifference?
jordanb
No, emacs should be happy with it.
Opcode
on another devs machine, it doesn't insert the coding line. but if he nukes his .emacs file, it does
so he's got something that's disabling it, but he doesn't know what
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