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jlf
Knodi: ,,keyboardmacrostricks
fsbot
KeyboardMacrosTricks is, like, at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?KeyboardMacrosTricks
Knodi
thx man
kenyon
or use tmux instead of screen, it defaults to C-b for the prefix key
damd
kenyon: C-b is even worse than C-a as a prefix key
kenyon
damd: nope
damd
okay
anxt`
yeah obsd is shipping with tmux in base, i might look at that i think fbsd will have it in base in fbsd 9
i like using tools in base :)
quotemstr
Sure, if you like your tools ancient and crippled.
         

anxt`
i bind screen to C-t
quotemstr
They practically come with walkers and oxygen tanks.
damd
i use C-t as my C-x
quotemstr
Consider the stock DNS server...
anxt`
bind ?
nothing wrong with sendmail and bind
qmail and djbdns are OK too
quotemstr
It can't even integrate into dhcpd. You have to use the version in ports for that.
dim
postfix!
quotemstr
sendmail is atrocious.
postfix is acceptable.
Now exim, that's just beautiful.
damd
polish!
dim
better than exim I think
anxt`
i would use qmail if not sendmail
dim
I switched to postfix before exim4, that said
and I'm not that serious about the setup
mmm, the needs are the one that are not that serious :)
anxt`
my mail server works. hasn't got pwned, good enough
quotemstr
Too many lines of postfix inquiry end up with "write a program that parses rfc2822 messages in order to implement your proposed semantics".
No thanks.
dim
about needs, I've written project-merge for projects.el as found in debian-goodies-el
any interest here for me to try to send a patch?
quotemstr
dim: emacs-devel
dim
it's not in emacs per se
,,projects.el
fsbot
Try: elim LearnLisp Lisp
quotemstr
Oh, okay.
dim
it's in debian emacs-goodies-el package
so it's not much used I guess
hence my questioning
well another day when I have more energy I'll reconsider :)
         

amoore
I use ansi-term. How can I have more lines of scrollback? or, is that a bash setting?
jlf
,yow
fsbot
Catsup and Mustard all over the place! It's the Human Hamburger!
Knodi
who would I write C-return as a kbd?
C-RET?
nm got it c-<return>
jlf
Knodi: in general, (kbd "foo") where foo is what C-h c calls the key
khaije|selen
As someone starting out, hoping to use emacs as an ide on linux, should I stick to emacs or check out xemacs (or some other variant)?
quotemstr
Hrm, that's odd.
jlf
khaije|selen: gnu emacs is more actively developed and represented here
dim
khaije|selen: I'd recommend gnu emacs 23, but I'm biased
quotemstr
[(meta ?\r)] DTRT, but [(control ?\r)] doesn't seem to affect any real keybinding.
khaije|selen: Speaking from experience, if you go the XEmacs route, you'll be for a compatibility nightmare. GNU Emacs will just work.
jlf
xemacs is great, for values of x = "gnu "
khaije|selen
:)
jlf
(Action) looks around nervously for bpalmer
legumbre
(Action) writes once, runs anywhere
khaije|selen
thanks all :)
Han
,anyone
fsbot
anyone -- Please do not ask if anyone uses, knows, is good with, can help you
Han
,owner
fsbot
owner -- [0] Deepak Goel, aka. deego
[1] at deego@gnufans.org
jlf
in a Makefile, is there a variable available that contains the requested target?
e.g. in `make foo OPT="bar baz"' it would contain foo
damd
jlf: ,,anyone
fsbot
I heard anyone is Please do not ask if anyone uses, knows, is good with, can help you
jlf
damd: ?
damd
jlf: please don't ask if anyone can help you
i dunno
shapr
Is there an emacs startup event I can hook to switch focus to my primary org-mode file at the very end of emacs startup?
damd
i've had a bit to drink
jlf
ah, well done
shapr: idk offhand, but you might read through M-x apropos RET hook
,forget anyone
fsbot
Forgot "anyone" which had exactly one entry.
damd
well done
shapr
Geez, that's a lot of hooks.
konr
so many plugins...
jlf
,anyone is Please do not ask if anyone uses, knows, is good with, can help you with <some program or library>. Instead, ask your real question and someone will answer if they can help.
fsbot
created.
damd
oh ffs
no one learns from that anyways
legumbre
what's the maximum BAC allowed in #emacs?
or is it a minumum?
damd
,BAC
fsbot
[Too many DB matches] [google] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/StringPermutations
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/IciclesTestCases
jlf
damd: it teaches people to ask their real question instead of, "oh hey does anyone here use emacs?" and going away when nobody answers
damd
BAC = blood alcohol concentration?
legumbre
damd: yes
damd
,BAC is Blood Alcohol Concentration. In #emacs the minimum BAC allowed is 0.2 percent.
fsbot
created.
konr
,BAC
fsbot
BAC -- Blood Alcohol Concentration. In #emacs the minimum BAC allowed is 0.2 percent.
jlf
,beer damd
fsbot
(Action) throws damd a lukewarm mug of Thetford Forest Mild!
damd
cheers
jlf
,give damd directions to the nearest AA meeting
fsbot
(Action) gives damd directions to the nearest AA meeting
damd
that's one thing that's great about irc -- you can get away with anything as long as you pretend you're drunk
legumbre
if your bac > 0.15 you are to stay away from the *scratch* buffer
jlf
i heard if it exceeds 0.3 you are granted commit access to vim
damd
vim is still around?
sepult
now my base is normalized
konr
Is there a way to make my syntax coloring richer?
Dwarik
what do you mean richer? use hot pink instead of red?
bob2
various color-themes use different colours
you can tweak things by hand if you're super bored
konr
I don't know... recognize more tokens, don't repeat colors
e1f
test
legumbre_
all systems go
quotemstr
Man, this Mozart guy deserves his reputation.
konr
undeniably a genius
quotemstr
legumbre, jlf: I submitted that little exchange to bash.org :-)
legumbre
quotemstr: what exchange?! my connection dropped! what did I miss?!
quotemstr
legumbre: The vim bit. :-P
e1f: We can't see it. Try again.
jlf
ha
e1f
the dark majesties will pay you a visit tonight
legumbre
I missed it! stupid isp
jlf
,g jlf site:bash.org
fsbot
[google] No match.
jlf
totally rigged
quotemstr
e1f: I knew I was due for a threesome.
totic
Whats the easiest way to change font size? (not the default)
jlf
C-x C-+, C-x C--
sepult
S-Mouse-left click
quotemstr
Move closer to the screen.
Failing that, M-x customize-face RET
sepult
get your spectacles
or use the lens
quotemstr
Let's cross-compile to Darwin.
totic
sepult: I am using emacs over ssh
quotemstr
totic: Think about that for a momne.
One moment will do.
totic
Bah, it doesnt matter just changed the size of the terminal font
quotemstr
How on *earth* would Emacs change the size of your terminal's font?
jlf
quotemstr: emacs over ssh does not imply -nw
quotemstr
jlf: It does colloquially.
jlf: And totic's last message confirms my theory.
jlf
ssh -X somehost emacs
quotemstr
Or better yet, C-x C-f /ssh:somehost:...
totic
sorry running emacs -nw
jlf
i used 'imply' advisedly
totic
So if I change the font of the terminal its solved
jlf
in the sense of logical implication
quotemstr
totic: What possible other solution did you have in mind?
totic: Try GUI Emacs. It's better in many respects.
totic
quotemstr: I like it better when I ssh in to use the emacs -nw
quotemstr
jlf: Yes, but most people don't write using precise logical definitions of words; "if" is often definitional rather than implicative.
totic: Crazy man.
totic
well I dont like to use the mouse so this helps stop me from using it
jlf
anyhoo..
quotemstr
"I dont like to use the mouse" --> "helps stop me from using it"
If you don't like it, why would you need help in abstaining? Methinks totic protests too much.
Admit it: you're a mouse lover! A mouse devoteƩ! You can't get enough of that pointy cursor!
Woah...
That was the strongest static electricity charge I'd *ever* experienced just now. My *scalp* tingled.
konr
What was again the function that allowed me to filter lines in a new buffer using a regexp?
legumbre
keep-lines ?
jlf
or its evil twin flush-lines
konr
nope... but let me try these...
hmm, it was somewhat like keep-lines, but the resulting content was placed in a new buffer
occur!
quotemstr
Interesting.
OS X doesn't guarantee any kind of compatibility across versions for statically-linked binaries.
But it does guarantee compatibility for dynamically-linked ones.
That's precisely the opposite of the Linux policy.
sepult
lol
jlf
there are worse design philosophies than following the opposite of the linux approach
quotemstr
Like Windows.
"Please, application authors, include a copy of libc along with your application."
sepult
what does Windows guarantee ?
legumbre
sepult: system updates that will reboot your computer in 4:59, 4:58
quotemstr
Eh, it's not that bad.
NTFS transactions are nice.
konr`
Do you use occur? I think it would be awesome if I could group the occurrences, and I wonder if it isn't implemented somewhere already
quotemstr
,moccur ?
fsbot
moccur -- [0] is M-x multi-occur included since emacs version 22
[1] in ibuffer: use "O" to run occur on all marked buffers
konr
moccur is just occur on all buffers, iirc
it would be nice to get all top-level s-exps and then group them, separating the (def from the (defn etc forms
quotemstr
You can run occur in the occur buffer.
Or sort.
jlf
,,...
fsbot
[In the distance, you hear a dog bark]
quotemstr
Hrm.
Why doesn't binutils compile ld when --target=i686-apple-darwin?
Wow.
sepult
cause we have to call rms beardy before that happends
quotemstr
binutils doesn't support mach-o at all!?!
How am I supposed to cross-compile?
sepult
with distcc
tessier
I still don't understand how to sudo with tramp so I can edit files that aren't readable to my user. This is one of those cases where I am probably not smart enough to use emacs.
legumbre
you'll buy an iPad, jailbreak it, the cross compile with ARM darwin to a x86 darwin target
sepult
tessier: may be define an alias for tramp ?
twb
legumbre: of course, you'll still be supporting Apple's pro-DRM stance, because they've got your money and they don't really care if a tiny minority of users can jump through those hoops.
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