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jlf
anyone know the mac equivalent to strace?
skorpan
when compiling latest CVS, i get this error:
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/home/deniz/sources/emacs/lisp/cedet/cedet-cscope.elc', needed by `compile-main'. Stop.
this happened about a month back ago as well, which is when i tried the last time
does anyone have an idea about what could be the cause?
jlf
skorpan: have you tried make distclean ?
skorpan
no, i'll try that
jordanb
THIS ROOM is INSUFFICIENTLY SMOKE FILLED!
jlf
figures... ...dsl.chcgil....
jordanb
http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/3217.html
skorpan
now i get this fat error: http://pastebin.com/d65dfd658
hm, could that be a merge thing? "<<<<<<<<"
jordanb
<<<<<<<< is a macro for *really* less than.
You must not have it defined.
It prevents emacs from trying to pretend that variables are greater than to boost their self esteem.
         

skorpan
seriously, what could be wrong?
i grepped and can only find that in stringsn
jordanb
Merge idiocy sounds right. Maybe look at the vc-cvs.el file.
skorpan
i did, can't find anything
jlf
wow, twitter has a "chief scientist"
skorpan
not even "<<"
jlf
(Action) wonders if he wears a lab coat
jordanb
IIRC, some idiot gave Eric Raymond commit access to vc and he's been in there breaking things in the past.
jlf
careful, that guy is well-armed
jordanb
I wonder how many underling scientists there are.
jlf: Thankefully he's too scared of cities to come near Chicago.
You know.. there are black people here.
jlf
hmm, never got that impression of him
jordanb
,esr
fsbot
ESR -- [0] http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/
[1] in particular http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/show-them-the-code,
[2] <offby1> esr is working on improving that even as we speak, ..[Type ,more]
jordanb
,more
fsbot
[3] "Two days ago, while on a quest to find one of the vanishing breed of waterbed stores, my wife and I had to drive through a slum section of Wilmington, Delaware. The streets were full of black people, and I had a strong 'Ugh! Dont want this kind anywhere near me!' reaction." -- Eric Raymond, ..[Type ,more]
jlf
,m
fsbot
fsbot-more ..(symbol)
jlf
,esr 3
fsbot
hmm, ESR is [3] "Two days ago, while on a quest to find one of the vanishing breed of waterbed stores, my wife and I had to drive through a slum section of Wilmington, Delaware. The streets were full of black people, and I had a strong 'Ugh! Dont want this kind anywhere near me!' reaction." -- ..[Type ,more]
jlf
,more
fsbot
Eric Raymond,
[4] Eric S. Raymond,
[5] http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1404,
[6] http://esr.1accesshost.com/
.. + other entries
         

jlf
[citation needed]
jordanb
http://www.google.com/search?q=Two+days+ago%2C+while+on+a+quest+to+find+one+of+the+vanishing+breed
jlf
"...Only it wasnt to their blackness. It was because, with a few teenage exceptions, they were graceless and ugly and fat."
nice selective quoting there
jordanb
Yeah that makes it a lot better.
jlf
i don't know about better, but it certainly deflates the quotation's evidentiary value with respect to racism
not defending esr you understand, just saying i haven't seen evidence of racism
DuClare
ESR is fine. <3
jordanb
Eric Raymond is graceless, ugly and fat. So if anything, he's turning his racism into projection.
To pretend it ins't there.
jlf
who gives a sh*t
jordanb
http://www.python.org/~guido/confpix/eraymond-3.jpg <-- "Ugh! Don't want this kind anywhere near me!"
quotemstr
I have a person grudge against ESR.
Gah, personal.
shabble
is it because he invented the internet, along with al gore? </troll>
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
I love it how mysql has like three lines of boiler plate to complain about a syntax error.
bremner
,yow
fsbot
HELLO, everybody, I'm a HUMAN!!
MisterN
,yow
fsbot
Then, it's off to RED CHINA!!
DuClare
,yew
fsbot
try: FisheyeWithThumbs yewenbin YeWenbinEmmsConf YeWenbinMuseConf
bbeecher
Hey, is there a way to call map such that every item knows it's position in the sequence?
fledermaus
it may be selective quoting but it's the same selective quoting _his own blog_ does on its front page
bbeecher: update a variable in the function
I assume you mean mapc or mapcar
oh no, there's a map too
bbeecher
fledermaus: yeah, I want a bool-vector back
fledermaus
just let a variable around the map to 0, and update it in function
,df map
fsbot
map is a compiled Lisp function in `cl-extra.el'.
(map TYPE FUNCTION SEQUENCE...)
Map a FUNCTION across one or more SEQUENCEs, returning a sequence.
TYPE is the sequence type to return.
bbeecher
I *could* use dotimes and just access the item in the arrary directly
fledermaus
whatever works for you.
bbeecher
this is one of my first brushes with functional though and I'm trying to keep it as side-effect free as possible :)
jordanb
Q: How do you know you're in France?
A: Even the police are striking: http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2009/12/03/un-poulet-en-colere-peut-tres-vite-devenir-un-coq-de-combat_1275884_3224.html
bbeecher
or I could use two lists and have one be the range 1-n... I don't suppose elisp has a way to make lazy lists?
fledermaus
don't think so
jlf
,(let ((list '(a b c d e))) (map 'list (lambda (entry pos) (cons entry pos)) '(a b c d e) (loop for i from 1 upto (length list) collecting i)))
fsbot
err..Symbol's function definition is void: fs-map
jlf
,(require 'cl-extra)
fsbot
whoops, Required feature `cl-extra' was not provided
jlf
anyway, wfm
bbeecher
the classic developers cry :)
jlf
,(require 'cl)
fsbot
cl
jlf
,(let ((list '(a b c d e))) (map 'list (lambda (entry pos) (cons entry pos)) '(a b c d e) (loop for i from 1 upto (length list) collecting i)))
fsbot
oops, Symbol's function definition is void: fs-map
jlf
silly bot
bbeecher
it's gonna take me a min to digest that anyway - my reading speed is sloooooow
,loop
fsbot
42 ..(integer)
stepnem
,df loop
fsbot
loop is a Lisp macro in `cl-macs.el'.
(loop CLAUSE...)
The Common Lisp `loop' macro.
Valid clauses are:
for VAR from/upfrom/downfrom NUM to/upto/downto/above/below NUM by NUM,
for VAR in LIST by FUNC, for VAR on LIST by FUNC, for VAR = INIT then EXPR, ..[Type ,more]
jlf
should actually be this.. i mistakenly used '(a b ...) instead of list as the third arg to map there... (let ((list '(a b c d e))) (map 'list (lambda (entry pos) (cons entry pos)) list (loop for i from 1 upto (length list) collecting i)))
bbeecher
ty
aha
got you
holy crap loop is complex
fledermaus
loop is monstrous.
an abomination born of incompatible vendor lisps.
bbeecher
ugggg that is too much for me tonight, but now I have a white whale at least
one day I'll find the macro that took my leg
DraX
loop actually scares me
bbeecher
one day
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
I'll thread you.
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's move this channel to oftc.
abbe
rudybot: quote
rudybot
abbe: Let's play grab-ass.
abbe
lol
,fortune
fsbot
Is this really happening?
brett_h
is there a way to force links I click in an Apropos buffer to open in the same window?
quotemstr
GODDAMN YOU, EMACS. STOP DISCARDING MY UNDO-HISTORY
nopedia
.. Emacs who was hit hard by this ran away crying "you can't undo history!"
jordanb
Let's set this column deferrable and initially defer it!
RetZ_
Is there a way to detect the syntax at point? For example, whether I'm currently editing a comment.
ersatzmaus
depends. ,,df c-guess-basic-syntax
fsbot
c-guess-basic-syntax is a compiled Lisp function in `cc-engine.el'.
(c-guess-basic-syntax)
Return the syntactic context of the current line.
RetZ_
Actually, I need this for Lisp code. :)
ersatzmaus
,df parse-partial-sexp
fsbot
parse-partial-sexp is a built-in function in `C source code'.
(parse-partial-sexp FROM TO &optional TARGETDEPTH STOPBEFORE OLDSTATE
COMMENTSTOP)
Parse Lisp syntax starting at FROM until TO; return status of parse at TO.
Parsing stops at TO or when certain criteria are met; ..[Type ,more]
jlf
those who forget their undo-history are doomed to redo it
or something
RetZ_
Thanks
Maybe checking the faces could work?
(get-text-property (point) 'face)
shabble
iirc the perl-completion module relies on checking face properties to identify certain objects. It seems a bit of a hacky way to do it though.
nopedia
,syntax-ppss
fsbot
nopedia
u got something to learn fsbot...
benny
nopedia: teach him
,fsbot
fsbot
[->] hmm, erbot is [0] an ERC (i.e. Emacs) based IRC infobot <http://emacswiki.org/wiki/ErBot>, <http://sv.nongnu.org/projects/erbot>
[1] the program of which fsbot is an instance (see <fsbot> and <help>)
consolers
benny i assume nopedia was looking for the docstring
well maybe not. then nopedia wouldve done ,df syntax-ppss wouldve triggered fullosheetbot
ersatzmaus
,df syntax-ppss
fsbot
syntax-ppss is a compiled Lisp function in `syntax.el'.
(syntax-ppss &optional POS)
Parse-Partial-Sexp State at POS, defaulting to point.
The returned value is the same as `parse-partial-sexp' except that
the 2nd and 6th values of the returned state cannot be relied upon. ..[Type ,more]
benny
we can only speculate!
nopedia
Ah ,df... yes
quotemstr
Hrm.
That's interesting.
mmap of /dev/zero doesn't work on OS X.
consolers
just fork it OH SORRY
lisptastic
Anyone know a command to move to the beginning of the first non-whitespace character in a line?
twb
C-a M-f M-b
lisptastic
Shame on me for not thinking of it, thanks.
e1f`
verne vs. wells http://beatonna.livejournal.com/125341.html
technomancy
e1f`: zomg that is amazing
e1f`
i do like the cartoonist. she does mostly canadian history
tensorpudding
heh
h!av is pretty neat
e1f`
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/01/blackwater-201001
consolers
no theres another command lisptastic
which does exactly what you want, and it has a binding but non-intuitive name
lisptastic : C-h f beginning-of-line-text
doesnt have a binding though
benny
lisptastic: M-m maybe
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's have an international incident.
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
I blame the parrots
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's be pirates by making bitkeeper work with non-bitkeeper software.
jordanb
LET"S USE MONO!
rudybot: quote
rudybot
I love it how amature every foreign language wikipedia is compared to the english on.
jordanb
The english on.
rudybot: quote
rudybot
I'll underscore your double quotes.
straszheim
what's the ?< in (if (eq (char-after) ?<) ...
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