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vimpulse
technomancy: dunno. What happens when it fails?
dim
even emacs -D does not start
gnutoo
thanks a lot for the tip
vimpulse
gnutoo: you're welcome.
dim
wow, emacs --iconic did the trick
vimpulse
Shizuo: but why are you thanking me for being here? Am I especially helpful?
Shizuo
Hey, no tipping here
This is a free support channel
vimpulse
Shizuo: :)
Shizuo
vimpulse: You ARE helpful
         

vimpulse
Shizuo: thank you.
Shizuo
No problem
vimpulse
Shizuo: is "You are helpful" what you originally wanted to say by "Thanks for being here"? If so, it would've been clearer if you just said "You are helpful; thanks for helping out the people in this channel".
Shizuo
Yes, that is what I've meant
vimpulse
Shizuo: :)
technomancy
vimpulse: actually possibly a pebkac; nm
Shizuo
Anyway, thank YOU again
vimpulse
Was Shizuo being sarcastic? See also his/her quit message, "I love you all".
ltsampros
can one use as a mail source an nnmimap folder in gnus ?
rgr
did you even look at the manual abotu imap support?
ams
rgr: no he didn't.
rgr
first result from, err, "imap gnus" in google :-
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/cgi-bin/info2www?(gnus)IMAP
ltsampros
rgr: I actually did. but i'm trying to plan how i'm gonna use it.
rgr
with gnus and either gmail or imap, google first, get a warm cuddly feeling that its supported and then spend 6 months trying to get it to work with others vaguely mentioning it "works for them"! Its all the fun of the fair!
ltsampros
mail splitting etc etc.
how to sync two gnus installations etc etc.
rgr
so when you said "can one use as a mail source an nnimap folder" thats not what you actually meant :-; ?
yes you can split. I use fancyxplit.
I also use the gnus-private field.
to sync, just use unison!
ltsampros
let's test then.
rgr
look here for a split example : http://richardriley.net/projects/emacs/dotemacs.html#sec-3
its a typical .gnus - a hotch potch of hacks and copied stuff :-;
skorpan
god DAMN
rgr
That was loud.
         

skorpan
hence the capital letters
rgr
what? Didn't catcht hat.
skorpan
"i can't hear youuuuu!!!!"
FUCK people who pack files into an archive without a wrapping folder
redsonya
+1
delYsid
+3
rgr
actually I hate that as it always makes a top level folder I dont like the name of. I always create one anyway so ... -4
ams
rgr: directory.tar -> directory/
period.
never anything else.
redsonya
darnit! I was going to say some cute thing like I raise you +3 etc like for poker, but I realised I don't know poker terms
ams
redsonya: `i call your 4, and raise 10'
redsonya
ams: thankyou. I'll note that down
ams
call == going equal to what is on the table
rgr
yeah, I could agree with that :-;
actually its not whats on the table. Its the sum current maximum bet from any individual in that round of betting.
redsonya
(Action) notices something flying right over her head
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Anyone who puts macros in a program that are run when an ordinary file is opened need taken out back.
yipstar
is there a way to restrict which buffers are available for a certain window? say i have my emacs split into 2 windows and want the buffer list for each window to only allow buffers from seperate projects respectively.
ltsampros
rgr thanks :) it actually worked
although the foirsty try was a little generic with no splitting and stuff. so lot's of mail went into misc.
rgr
np
ltsampros: so you too can say "err, garbage, imap works fine in gnus" the next time people start spouting nonsense about it being useless :-;
ltsampros
rgr: for the simple things I tried until know
yes, I can say, that it works. if someone doesn't like the way nnimap works, let them send the patches
rgr
ltsampros you are doing splitting and you say "simple things"? LOL.
ltsampros
yeap
i use fancy splitting
rgr
err, so do I in the example I linked you too :-;
ltsampros
and I actually applied the information in 6.3.8 in order to apply fancy splitting on the already fetched articles that went to mail.misc
rgr: yeap. same thing mostly.
rgr: I really like the nnmail-split-abbrev-alist part
it seems to simplify the rules
rgr
I wouldnt like to start working out how to use it from scratch again mind. It took AGES to get it working. Gnus documentation sucks,
ltsampros
i've been hooked with gnus only for a couple of months.
rgr
ltsampros: I could never got to another client after gnus. Havnig said that, html emails still irritate me.
ltsampros
heheh.
1.5 years using outlook at work, made me use gnus
rgr
what I really like is creating tasks in org-mode from an email - links back to gnus work great.
I could never move back to windows now. I'm not a windows knocker, but I like my debian set up now too much to let it go.
ltsampros
rgr: neither am i, but you know, company policy etc
rgr
yup. but I'm not in IT anymore so it doesnt bother me.
ltsampros
i see
rgr: so. all good with my new Gnus installation.
but, the old installation has a good amount of mail in nnml groups.
I hope the migration of them to the new setup will be easy
ysph
how is shimbun for rss/atom? i currently use google reader but i'd like to move my rss reading into emacs
parolang
Is there any recommended way to parse a text file in a particular format and convert it into elisp s-expressions?
Or is that something that elisp developers generally do by hand?
ltsampros
reprore: ("sender" "\\(\\w+\\)@googlegroups.com" "mail.gg.\\1")
bremner
depends on the format. there are libraries for some things
ltsampros
oops that was for rgr
rgr: do you see sth wrong on the above line ?
reprore
?
parolang
bremner: Well...it's my own made-up format. Is there a ready-to-use format I should adopt?
(I haven't designed the format...so I'm open to changing to something that is easy.)
ltsampros
reprore: sorry mate. double tab.
bremner
parolang: what do you want do with it? you could just use sexpr
or json
parolang
bremner: Well...I have an idea for a planning/budgeting program, but I wanted something more readable than raw sexps.
rgr
I keep wanting to like irssi but it keeps resizing its fekking containers in a screen.
bremner
parolang: json would be an OK choice, I guess. json.el is included with emacs (since 22, I think, but definitely in 23)
parolang
I'll check it out
rgrx30
,...
rudybot
Woof.
fsbot
[In the distance, you hear a dog bark]
redsonya
ysph: There is a package for google reader called g-client.
http://emacspeak.blogspot.com/2007/07/emacs-g-client-reader-and-cse-searching.html
for more details
rgrx30
works for bloger.com blogs too ...
ltsampros
aren't dashes permitted in nnml group names ?
rgrx30
,...
rudybot
Woof.
fsbot
[In the distance, you hear a dog bark]
legumbre
,....
fsbot
[the sound of crickets permeates the air]
the-kenny
meow.
ltsampros
has anyone tried a generic fancy mail split rule like this: ("sender" "\\([-a-z]+\\)@googlegroups.com" "mail.gg.\\1")
konr
Guys, I changed my WM and emacs' fonts are now terrible. Any idea why?
ysph
konr: how are you setting your fonts? maybe you are no longer loading Xresources?
konr: terrible as in the fonts are the same as before only no longer anti-aliased, or what?
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's go to DeVry and get an exciting tech career started.
jordanb
You guys should talk about something.
I'll get the conversation started
How bout them Bears?
,...
rudybot
Woof.
fsbot
[In the distance, you hear a dog bark]
my_haz
jordanb: was your favorite mode ?
jordanb
fsbot: no, ... is <noecho> [In the distance, you hear a churchbell ding (shutup, rudybot)]
fsbot
created.
jordanb
,...
rudybot
Woof.
fsbot
From memory, ... is <noecho> [In the distance, you hear a churchbell ding (shutup, rudybot)]
jordanb
fsbot: no, ... is noecho [In the distance, you hear a churchbell ding (shutup, rudybot)]
fsbot
created.
jordanb
,...
rudybot
Woof.
fsbot
[In the distance, you hear a churchbell ding (shutup, rudybot)]
jordanb
my_haz: quoi?
my_haz
never herd of it
it must be french or something
is it the mode for talking french?
jordanb
,t8 fr en quoi
rudybot
what
fsbot
what
my_haz
,t8 en ru interesting
rudybot
8=B5@5A=K9
fsbot
8=B5@5A=K9
my_haz
wow it works
jordanb
It uses computers to do that.
s/computers/google/
my_haz
jordanb: can you get a translation from google using a GET method? Or it an API or What?
jordanb
Je ne sais quoi
Il y'a un API, je cois.
quotemstr
jordanb: Je suis un anananas?
jordanb
Oui, vous etez un anananas.
redsonya`
vous \e^tes
jordanb
merci
êtes
redsonya`
de rien
jordanb
J'aime le LaTeX.
redsonya`
oui, moi aussi
quotemstr
la langue française met l'anguille en aéroglisseur.
redsonya`
my grammar isn't too bad but my vocab is quite limited
jordanb
quotemstr: That makes no cents.
quotemstr
jordanb: You haven't seen the famous Monty Python sketch, I take it?
jordanb
:<
I'm a frayed knot.
quotemstr
,g my hovercraft is full ofeels
fsbot
[google] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Hungarian_Phrasebook
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DG6D1YI-41ao
quotemstr
Watch the video.
jordanb
Haha
hahaha
my_haz
oh, yeah this is pure classic
jordanb
Falls apart at the end.
Not in a good way like a lot of Python.
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's fail to return a value.
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's evaluate a to 2.
armadillo
hello people, I'm trying to define a syntax table (which I find an overly obscure way to define syntax) and I'm currently struggling to define '#{' as comment block start, and '}#' for comment end. I already have '#' defined as line comment (using ?# "< "), but still haven't found my way to define the comment blocks and I'm starting to get dizzy reading the docs. Any hint?
ryoma
armadillo: cl mode. #| |#
armadillo
at times like this, I'd love that emacs didn't suck this much and were a bit more simple and easier to understand, look at vim's way for example: syn region some-label start="#{" end="}#"
done
no extra hassle
geez
the guy that made all that syntax table bullsh*t must have been some crack head
ryoma
probably rms
armadillo
seriously, wtf
ryoma
,rms
fsbot
rms is, like, [0] At http://stallman.org
[1] http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/,
[2] the nick of Richard M. Stallman, founder of the FSF,
[3] rms wrote emacs,
[4] at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RMS, ..[Type ,more]
e1f
with great power comes great responsibility
armadillo
e1f: what's that supposed to mean in this context?
e1f: if you mean the power of syntax tables: cryptic != powerful
clean and flexible == powerful
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