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cluck
and if someone's really serious about the "in emacs" part there's always yegge's js interpreter in elisp
technomancy
cluck: because scripts in web pages expect that only one thread can alter the dom at a time
JS has a "stop the world, I want to take a look" concurrency paradigm
(that is to say, no concurrency at all)
_Pb
this is hard to search for, is there a way I can play Go and go puzzles inside emacs?
the game, not golang
rgr
google : emacs go games
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryGames
_Pb
rgr: thanks. i should have thought to go to the wiki first
e1f
(Action) is working on a new play "who's afraid of emacs lisp?'
based on the life of a drunken elisp programmer and her troubled relationship with emacs
proq
shweet
drunken master 3: elisp femme fatale
can someone who can read japanese tell me what this says: http://artwerkz.com/huh.png - I can't use babelfish as it is an image
irlchris
is there an easy way to filter out the joined \ quit messages in erc?
proq
yes
(setq erc-hide-list '("JOIN" "PART" "QUIT"))
,proq
         

fsbot
hmm, proq is [0] an #emacs regular
[1] short for proqesi
irlchris
cool - thanks
proq
,proq is also a starving iPhone games programmer
fsbot
Added entry to the term "proq"
irlchris
any interesting games?
cluck
rgr
heh, its only after trying something like irssi, widely touted hard core irc client, that you realise what a load of cack some things are compared to their emacs equivalents.
irlchris
well that lisp snippet seemed to do the trick for me
only started logging on here since yesterday - just hoping to pick up a few emacs tips and tricks
proq
rgr: you mean you realized erc is much better than irssi? :)
irlchris
nope - generally don't bother with irc
rgr
well, I never used irssi before. It looked quite neat. but its so limited compared to something inside emacs of course.
erc-hide-list (quote ("353" "JOIN" "KICK" "NICK" "PART" "QUIT" "MODE"))
the 353 stops the listing of users when you first connect.
teiresias
I'm going to have to remember that one.
Sketch
the emacs irc clients are pretty hardcore irc clients
proq
oo, handy
irlchris
rgr: even better
rgr
well, they're not. Its just that the rest of the emacs features "for free" help them to be :-;
teiresias
I love being able to snarf the URLs that people post in IRC channels using (thing-at-point 'url)
irlchris
shame I can't connect at work (unless y'all have any suggestions)
rgr
brgrI find this better and mor flexible for url at point : (setq url (or url (w3m-url-valid (w3m-anchor)) (browse-url-url-at-point) (region-or-word-at-point)))
proq
cluck: nice try, but none of those sites work with japanese characters
or rather, not-so-nice try
         

subopt
Is there a built-in that's the complement of narrow-to-region? , say, hide-region?
rgr
when running emacsclient -nw inside an xterm why would M-n and M-p be undefined?
melmothX
rgr: sure the xterm see the alt as meta?
technomancy
irlchris: dircproxy on a nonstandard port?
rgr
I dont realy know or understand. It says "M-n" not defined when I C-h k it. Also it wokds as meta for irssi for example.
irlchris
technomancy: will check that out
subopt
,hide-region
fsbot
try: hide-region.el HideRegion
subopt
,hide-region.el
fsbot
I think hide-region.el is at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?hide-region.el
melmothX
rgr: M-n M-p in the scrath buffer are undefined
rgr
scratch buffer?
I'm not in the scratch - I'm in minibuffer
trying to stepo thorugh command history
What is funny is how often you ask people how to do something like, for example, opening a url from an irc client and they ask why the hell you would want to do that! We take so much for granted when something like an irc client is inside Mother Emacs :-)
melmothX
do esc-n and esc-p work?
rgr
strange. must have been a screen anamoly. working again now.
melmothX: and yes they did, thanks.
(Action) marvels at how powerful screen is once more ...
7save
cluck
proq: the smiley at the end should have give away that i was joking
rgr: iirc there's an option in erc's customize group to NOT ask the names list on join
melmothX: you can get some emacs-like key behavior in most curses apps
DraX
just enough to be annoying
melmothX
cluck?
DraX
like kill without yank
cluck
rgr: they asked why likely because you can setup xterm to buttonize stuff
DraX
my urxvt buttonizes urls
rgr
no they asked because they knew irssi features are pretty archaic and because they are not used to the kind of things we take for granted.
urls was a mere example. spell, google, translate etc came under the same scrutiny. not that I blame them.
melmothX
i really like irssi
rgr
as a fast xterm/screen based client its quite nice. But window management is hell : so much easier with emacs buffers.
melmothX
i don't like to have a "production" environment polluted with irc... and not sure erc supports ssl
rgr
well, with emacs daemon this "pollution" is pretty minimal.
melmothX
well, currently I have 15 tabs in irssi open...
having 15 buffers (quite useless)... no thanks
rgr
set awl_all_disable on
melmothX
hmm, I'll give a try
cluck
rgr: i once used an automatic translation script with irssi (though just for fun) and that was years ago
melmothX: it does
melmothX
cluck: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ErcSSL ?
yeah, M-x erc-tls works
e1f
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/12/23/apple_developers_told_to_prepare_full_screen_apps_for_jan_demo.html
Borbus
cluck: I think GNU readline supports most emacs commands, including kill/yank, but I don't think readline works with curses
e1f
proposed ff interface changes http://blog.stephenhorlander.com/2009/12/21/windows-themeui-update/
caoliver
Assuming rumors of a BZR shift are true, is this going to break the GIT mirror?
for the EMACS dev repos that is.
e1f
anything emacs related takes years of planning before being implemented so i think you should be fine for a few more years ;)
rgr
I thought the switch over was already done.
e1f
that's unpossible. this is emacs developers we're talking about
irlchris
e1f: interesting ff article
e1f
it's nothing that's too radical. i wonder how it'll look on good ol xp which half of the world is still running
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/computers
irlchris
debating upgrading to Win7 over the Christmas break
qDot_
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technomancy
irlchris: you're not supposed to admit that in this channel
irlchris
haha
just laziness :)
my_haz
is there a way to customize the number of lines that the *compile* buffer uses?
e1f
who names their pet rabbit captain miffles?
rgr
(setq compilation-window-height 16)
my_haz
thanks rgr
rgr
my_haz: can you "rgr: test message" me please
my_haz
rgr: test message
rgr
hmmph. Another irssi script that doesn't seem to work :-;
my_haz
rgr: yeah, i am kinda a 'out of the box' irssi guy
like my `screen` is made to look like irssi, not the other way round
rgr
could you try that again please (sorry for OT) trying babelirc
my_haz
rgr: here you are
rgr
rgr:test me
bah
typically crap comments too.
e1f
just use erc, people
ryoma
rcirc seems to work ok for me
e1f
or we will laugh behind your back when you exit and we see your exit message
rgr
its called experimentation. although erc kicks rcirc's arse ... :-;
heh
technomancy
nah; rcirc has better join/part hiding
though I use erc
rgr
this is amazing. 3 out of 4 irssi scripts I have tried seem to do nothing at all. And not one of them has a usage example or a single comment line in them.
e1f
there are pitfalls to experimenting in public
i thought perl was self-documenting
rgr
sure.
e1f
perhaps only to larry and randal
rgr
thats like being told to read your xmonad.hs if you're not sure whyn xmonad is playing up :-,
cluck
technomancy: that can be fixed, mwolson was looking for volunteers to take up maintenance in his place ;)
rgr: /load foo
rgr: /help foo
usually does the trick, iirc
rgr
what do you mean? I know how to load scripts. Just loads are out of date or dont work.
e.g leodict, google and now it seems babelirc.
technomancy
cluck: sure it can be done, but I don't quite care enough about it to implement it.
just to complain. =(
rgr
s/google/mygoogle
cluck
technomancy: i know, i'm the same, i was just messing with you :)
bremner
recommendations for a template/snippet mode for use with message mode? I have to send some repetitive, but customized emails from time to time.
google turns up message-templ.el, which, aside from the handy japanese documentation, works like wanderlust.
e1f
when the apes take over after the apocalypse, will they still use emacs or will it be vi all the ay
bremner
is this some kind of darwin anniversary riff?
e1f
no, just wondering
is it his birthday?
bremner
oh, 200th anniversary of something other recently
e1f
it's more 'planet of the apes' than darwin
bremner
oh, well, that everybody believes in
e1f
isn't darwin some crackpot evolutionist?
isomer
i thought it's some mac platform or other
aartist
I recently bought ipod
1 Anything related to emacs on it?
2. Any ipod forum exists?
e1f
2/3s of americans want creationism taught in school
how can this happen in the world's most powerful country
they have nucular weapons ffs
isomer
because god is on their side, e1f
(duh)
e1f
i want to see some proof
dna would be acceptable
isomer
proof of what?
e1f
god
aartist
creationism is good. I like it.
creationism is god. I like it.
isomer
well, you know the answer to that already.... it's here: http://tinyurl.com/5f6y8b
twb
e1f: Pakistan and Israel have nuclear weapons. Why don't you think THEY'RE the most powerful?
bremner
they only have enough to destroy the world once
lame
and no fm tuner
;a,e
err. lame
rgr
e1f: read the dikipedia page for Sarah Palin. Her rise to fame is rather amusing.
"her rise from from second place in a beauty pageant to potentially second in command of the worlds largest nuclear arsenal..."
e1f
it won't happen. her party will ensure she doesn't succeed
twb
Anyway, nuclear warfare is old hat
rgr
I just watched 2012. Not bad except for the cheesy apple pie ending. But yeah, nuclear weapons are old hat. Its neutrinos we have to worry about now ...
caoliver
rgr: the second parag of that entry is nice.
twb
rgr: I was thinking more biological and grey goo weaponry.
caoliver
Poor person's nukes.
rgr
On the subject of which I am cooking lentils tomorrow.
twb
I'm not aware of any weaponization of neutrinos.
caoliver
Brown goo.
my_haz
lentils pwn
twb
caoliver: well, that's precisely the point. You can deliver a biological warhead for a fraction of the cost of a nuclear one, and it leaves the infrastructure standing for when your troops roll in.
caoliver
Weaponized lentils. Guaranteed to cause intestinal distress and asphyxiation.
rgr
No one mentioned neutrinos in respect of weaponry. You need to read up on your Mayan predictions and then watch 2012. It's all the rage.
twb
rgr: I'm sorry, pop science isn't science.
rgr
duh ..
caoliver
twb: assuming a long enough incubation, the warhead could be another human.
rgr
Maybe like a transformer? I watched Transformers too today. I love justin.tv ...
twb
rgr: that sh*t will rot your mind
rgr
not when you're only watching it out of the corner of your eye while cursing irssi scripts it won't ..
twb
How do you do layer 2 QoS?
ryoma
(Action) is unclear on why a non-emacs irc client is worth trying
twb
ebtables?
rgr
because its nice to experiment at times.
isomer
bi**hx baby
all the way
rgr
bi**hx??
fsbot
Of course not!
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