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DuClare
Hm
madpickle
admit it
you wish it had it.
DuClare
Looks like I have mouse-4 and mouse-5
But I use BS for back and I don't go forward :|
(In a web browser)
madpickle
or alt-arrow keys in opera
sometimes the mouse is more convenient. it all depends.
btw, mine will actually go back in history
not prev/next.
DuClare
Hm, arrows are inconvenient for me.
neosoothsayer
What do people mean when they say 'lookup intern in Emacs'? Is it a company that you can work for?
madpickle
rule #1 of emacs: you do not talk about interns.
neosoothsayer
madpickle: hehe, its amusing though to hear it confused with 'internship'
madpickle
it's like "women's suffrage"
the number of people who'd willingly agree to "end women's suffrage" is comical.
         

hiredman
I'd agree to that
neosoothsayer
good idea - I'd start a campaign for that. Lets see how people I can get to sign up if I sit at the local mall with a petition!
ams
ban DHMO aswell
hiredman
I'm not using my suffrage while we're at it
madpickle
DHMO killed my uncle!
neosoothsayer
I've never used mine across any of the countries I've lived in
madpickle
i sold mine for a klondike bar.
neosoothsayer
Whats DHMO?
hiredman
madpickle: to a woman, I bet
madpickle
dihydrogen monoxide
cvandusen
madpickle: good deal!
ams
Di-hydrogenium mono-oxide
dangrous chemical that causes death to millions of people
neosoothsayer
What is it? Something like Zyklon-B?
madpickle
and it's all over your municipal water supply
the fu*kers can't even get rid of it!
ams
nod...
hiredman
I assumed DHMO where the initials of a mafia hitman
ams
and it causes deaths in ethiopia..
and poorer countrys
and is the major reason for carrying poisounes metals to humans, animals, etc...
madpickle
hiredman: no, no, that's an *HMO*
ams
neosoothsayer: major reason for acid rain..
really nasty stuff
jlf
sadly, many people use it recreationally
         

subversus
is line-move-visual something specific to emacs 23?
VampirePenguin
ok.. i have tried a few things in emacs... does gnus, rmail, emms, muse need a config file before using them or will themy work on install... i tried to run mplayer as a shell command and the whole window blanked out... i had 2 separate windows at the time
im trying to get up and running ,.. have a decent config if i need one but not sppend a lot of time unecessarily
bob2
gnus needs a config file to do anything useful
madpickle
i've never used mplayer: is it a commandline application?
bob2
dunno why you'd run mplayer in emacs
emms and muse don't need a config file afaik
nor rmail
VampirePenguin
i use it to wstream radio and play tunes from hdds
dim
VampirePenguin: in general you need to tweak sth, but have a look at ELPA to ease getting the software
VampirePenguin
it is cli, fb and gui depending on how initiated
dim
,,elpa
fsbot
I think elpa is [0] the Emacs Lisp Package Archive, an apt-like utility for elisp <http://tromey.com/elpa/index.html>
[1] maintained by tromey,
[2] at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ELPA,
[3] promoted in this essay: http://dto.github.com/notebook/blog-2008-01-14-1205.html
madpickle
but do you need to run it from emacs though?
dim
madpickle: ,,emms is nice and can use mplayer as a backend I think (or vlc)
fsbot
Doh! emms is already something else.. Use 'is also'..
Currently: a media (e.g. music) player for Emacs <http://emacswiki.org/wiki/EMMS>, <http://gnu.org/software/emms>
VampirePenguin
right now i run it through guake/shell
madpickle
VampirePenguin: M-x shell
you can run it through there
VampirePenguin
im just shifting its pipe for a better word
madpickle
or term/ansi-term for that matter.
dim
M-x term is my choice :)
madpickle
for something... nicer... go with what dim said about emms
VampirePenguin
i feel like all thumbs tryiing to get the keybindings going...
madpickle
that's OK
after four or five years it'll improve.
VampirePenguin
nods
i loaded every emacs app in my repo tat wasnt a duplicate
ams
where is twb?
fsbot
I think twb is an untrustworthy #emacs denizen; a Cretan and a cretin <http://emacswiki.org/wiki/twb> .. + other entries
timcharper
where is timcharper?
,,timcharper
fsbot
[google] http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki%3FRecentChanges
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsForMacOS
timcharper
,,madpickle
fsbot
UMTS War on Terrorism INSCOM FBI underground Perl-RSA ASPIC beanpole
timcharper
sorry, forget I asked.
ams
hmph.
god i hate git
timcharper
ams: why ?
bremner
talk about walking right into a diatribe :)
ams
if i did a clone from some git://...repo, and say i want to switch over to ssh://, what is the sane way of doing so
?
timcharper
I have exactly the opposite sentiment about git
bremner
just edit .git/config
timcharper
edit .git/config
ams
no way of doing it programmatically?
timcharper
bremner: bah. beat me to it :)
umm... sed ?
ams
error prne.
next..
bremner
ams: git config if you prefer
timcharper
you could also remove the remote, and then re-add it again
bremner
this loses something iirc
timcharper
bremner: perhaps reflogs ?
git config remote.origin.url your-shiny-new-url-here
git config --list to see all the fun settings you can change
ams
that is nice, probobly contains lots ofundocumented cruft...
but the git config remote.. will do.
thanks
timcharper
ams: probably many are undocuments. But, lots of them are documented nicely in git-config (git help config)
and... ok, I don't have the EXACT opposite feeling about git, there's a few things that bug me about it. But overall, I really like it
ams
timcharper: as i said, git sucks, give me decent documentation instead of having to hunt through crazy commands to figure out what osmething does
timcharper
I find the documentation to be decent
but... I hear you.
ams
they could start by writting documentation.
timcharper
http://git-scm.com/documentation
if the man pages don't suffice
google "git change remote url" - first hit. edit .git/config
anyways... sorry, I understand that you're mad
and I don't blame you
ams
timcharper: _programmatically_
and i'm not mad.
timcharper
I still don't blame you
tommylommykins
Hiya, emacs n00b running windows, who's just done somnething very stupid
C-u 10000000 ;
obviously, this had made emacs very unresponsive
Is there a useful way to un-unresponsive it?
les
tommylommykins: C-g
tommylommykins
aha!
ams
tommylommykins: you did read the tutorial... right? RIGT?!
tommylommykins
thanks
qed
my line wrapping is weird
tommylommykins
Actually yes, C-g just didn't cross my mind
Apologies for my stupidity
qed
i want it to wrap, but it keeps creating a new line
i have it wrapping at window edge
timcharper
ams: FYI, this project has some really good ideas: http://amp.carboni.ca/
qed: where would you have it wrap, if not at window edge ?
qed: are you wanting it to wrap at 78 characters, or something ?
ams
timcharper: ?
timcharper
oh... wait, I see. It's creating a new line, instead of wrapping... sorry, misunderstood you at first
ams: that project - it's aim is to make a really good interface to version control systems, using any repository format
ams
ohgod..
timcharper
so you can work with mercurial, git, bazaar, etc. all using the same command-line interface
ams
not yet another brain dead interface
yeah, i've got emacs.
timcharper
ams: well, I'm not sure it would be another brain dead interface.
ams
it is.
timcharper
the point is to make a really well polished one, whereas with git it feels there was more emphasis on the repository format and less on the interface
subversus
timcharper: i looked at that amp site
gotta be honest - looks terrible
timcharper
what's terrible about it ?
ams
i like this quote from that site:
* Uniquely customizable
subversus
yeah, about that
it looks like a huge mess is what's terrible about it
timcharper
uniquely customizable makes it terrible ?
subversus
timcharper: sometimes, yeah, that can do it
timcharper
then emacs is terrible
linux is terrible
ams
* Superbly documented with YARD
one fu*king readme huh?
subversus
ams is really pro-ing this for me so I'll just sit back and lol quietly to myself
ams
=)
subversus
i like "Demonstrate Ruby performance"
timcharper
are you guys attacking the idea ?
to make a one interface to use all distributed VSCs ?
ams
timcharper: no, the implementation.
phuff
Anybody ever used tramp with a prompt that has colors in it?
ams
phuff: every day.
subversus
i mean like... ok - yeah it's a nice idea to have a tool to access any repo backend
timcharper
ok... I made no mentione of the implementation
phuff
It's hanging because it doesn't match the prompt...
Of course the prompt looks like this...
eng@codx.xnx:~:
Which is not like any prompt I've ever seen :)
ams
?
phuff
:/dirname/:
I've never seen that before in a default prompt
ams
yes ...
phuff
So, I'm trying to figure out how to shoe-horn that into the default tramp-shell-prompt-pattern I guess
timcharper
anyways... I've never considered the ability to tear down and mock a tool or ambition to be any considerably admirable virtue
ams
phuff: uhm, trivial?
phuff
ams: Just add an | you think?
ams
"\\(?:^\\|\r\\)[^#$%>\n]*#?[#$%>] *\\(\e\\[[0-9;]*[a-zA-Z] *\\)*"
should match it anyway...
or ... fix the prompt on the remote.
phuff
Hmmm, that's not what my tramp-shell-prompt-pattern looks like...
subversus
ams: you wrote that regex extremely fast wtf
phuff
ams: First day at a new company ;) I probably shouldn't go changing their shell prompts ;)
ams
subversus: yeah... just a C-y away...
phuff: your luser?
phuff
No, it's a shared one
ams
ah
subversus
was gonna say..
phuff
ams, what var is that? tramp-shell-prompt-pattern?
ams
yes
phuff
Ok
I must have an older version of tramp
ams
and you should config shell-prompt-pattern instead.
or not..
h,.
phuff
Yeah, I thought that was the point of tramp-shell-prompt-pattern
Hmmmm
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