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e1f
ok
polypus
how to get the temporary buffers to pop up in one place only, like in a temporary window which closes when you hit q, the way that ecb does it?
is there a small el lib or which functions/hooks should i be looking at?
shabble
special-display-*, maybe?
although I forget how things choose if they're displayed specially or not. There's at least ,,dv special-display-regexp to control it
fsbot
not documented as a variable.
shabble
,dv special-display-regexps
fsbot
List of regexps saying which buffers should be displayed specially.
Displaying a buffer with `display-buffer' or `pop-to-buffer', if
any regexp in this list matches its name, displays it specially
using `special-display-function'. `special-display-popup-frame' ..[Type ,more]
polypus
ty, i'll have a look
Kanisterschleife
Mhh.. now compose-mail adds the from field correctly, but vm-reply does not
fixermark
Greetings! Quick question: does emacs support (or has someone written an extension that grants support for) some kind of package management for emacs extensions?
I'm thinking "gems" in Ruby.
         

schmir
fixermark: yes
technomancy
,elpa
fsbot
From memory, elpa is [0] the Emacs Lisp Package Archive, an apt-like utility for elisp <http://tromey.com/elpa/index.html>
[1] maintained by tromey,
[2] at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ELPA,
[3] promoted in this essay: http://dto.github.com/notebook/blog-2008-01-14-1205.html
schmir
thanks technomancy. forget the name of that package
fixermark
Thank you! Excellent. :)
technomancy
it's not perfect, but it beats installing by hand
especially for dependencies or complicated autoloads
fixermark
*nod* This is pretty great.
e1f
gosh, i might have to breakout the parka tomorrow
ryoma
neosoothsayer: ,,destructuring-bind
fsbot
[google] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/el-expectations.el
http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/static/css-palette.el.txt
technomancy
e1f: I'm making tea right now from the melted portion of my office's water supply
e1f
where are you? in the arctic?
technomancy
e1f: seattle
my office is a converted shed though
it was 12F this morning
not sure what that is in real numbers
madpickle
12.0?
e1f
wow
no wonder we haven't heard from offby1
he's probably lying frozen somewhere
neosoothsayer
,destructing-bing
fsbot
The EMACS will rescue me from every evil attack and will bring me
safely to his heavenly kingdom.
technomancy
it's making me want to learn to type with gloves on
neosoothsayer
,destructuring-bind
fsbot
[google] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/el-expectations.el
http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/static/css-palette.el.txt
         

technomancy
heh; destructuring bing... =)
neosoothsayer
technomancy: hehe! typos come out fun sometimes
scottj
I often want to move my cursor to the beginning of a phrase so I isearch for the phrase but exiting isearch leaves my cursor somewhere other than the beginning of the phrase. Is there a way of exiting isearch that I'm missing that leaves the cursor at the beginning of the matched phrase?
Kanisterschleife
bye!
ralph_
Anyone know how to use latex-style ``quotes'' in text mode?
That would be really cool. There must be some lisp hook or some function I could add to my init file.
skorpan
check what " is bound to in your latex-mode
xnox
ralph_: go to emacs wiki auctes page
skorpan
and bind it in fundamental-mode as well
xnox
ralph_: and it has code snipped
ralph_
auctes or auctex?
skorpan
(global-set-key (kbd "\"") 'TeX-insert-quote)
``hello''
works here
ralph_
cool!
Oops. Symbol's variable is void: 'Tex-insert-quote
skorpan
TeX
not Tex
ralph_
skorpan, Hmm... I copied what seems like the relevant code into my init.el.
Still it's saying symbol's variable is void.
skorpan
i assume you have already loaded auctex? otherwise the function will not have been defined
ralph_
I don't know why it's called "defadvice"
load auctex...
(Action) r's tfm
skorpan
auctex is the name of the best emacs latex mode, i think it's bundled with emacs 23.1
you don't need to know what a defadvice is to get this working
ralph_
skorpan, Cool. This is getting fun.
I'll have to go soon to study for my final, but I'm very excited about this.
I work in a math department where people really really appreciate latex, but often consider the editing itself to be a chore.
I think that knowing emacs is a real help.
skorpan
auctex is made of win
ralph_
Yes!
Emacs is already good, but I guess that If I can get auctex working, that will be even better.
Sometimes the easiest solution is best:
(Action) apt-get installs auctex
e1f
"A mechanical watch is an anachronism, it is the ultimate refinement of "low" technology"
skorpan
my colleagues tried to convince me that mechanics had nothing to do with physics :|
ralph_
skorpan, Well, I apt-got auctex and rebooted emacs, but still TeX-insert-quote definition is void.
e1f
wht is their field of expertise? music?
ralph_
Also, it doesn't show up with C-h C-f
Any idea how to find TeX-insert-quote or to get it into scope?
skorpan
e1f: electrical engineering and computer engineering :P
e1f: and i'm downright lousy at maths and physics
ralph_
Does anyone know where the auctex files are located?
skorpan
ralph_: yes you need to actually load auctex as well, not just install it
this is in my .emacs: (load "auctex.el" nil t t)
it depends on your distribution
shankyb0y
how do I change the appearance of the cursor from a vertical line to a block?
skorpan
(setq cursor-type 'box)
ruediger
Is there a way to get the path of the .dir-locals.el inside .dir-locals.el?
skorpan
you mean the path to the file itself?
ruediger
yes
skorpan
from any given file?
ruediger
no from the .dir-locals.el file
not from the file to which those vars are applied
skorpan
no idea
ralph_
skorpan, Yes. (load "auctex.el" nil t t)
skorpan
ralph_: it worked?
ralph_
I got that from the wiki you referred me to. It doesn't seem to be working.
ruediger
((c++-mode . ((compile-command . (concat "cd " DIR-LOCALS.EL-PATH " && make"))))) <-- i want to do sth like that
ralph_
I mean, it doens't break -- it says "t", but still, the quotes aren't working.
skorpan
ralph_: try locating auctex.el on your system using whatever means possible
oh, well..
then the load is working
ralph_: exactly what is going wrong when you run the global-set-key?
ralph_
skorpan, find auctex.el... Okay. I should be able to find a way to do that.
(Action) is working on locating auctex.el
skorpan
what i usually do is "sudo updatedb; locate auctex.el"
ralph_
skorpan, Global-set-key seems to work.
skorpan
okay cool
ralph_
skorpan, nice trick!
That's amazing.
Now I can find files.
skorpan
cool! :)
ralph_
Yes!
Also, now I know about /usr/share.../site-lisp/
Okay. Well, maybe I can tune in later.
teedex
has anyone been able to update the default os x emacs installation to version 23
ralph_
skorpan, Thanks for your help.
skorpan
sure no problem
ralph_
I've got to go and study for a topology final which is tomorrow.
skorpan
spread the gospel!
ralph_
The update is that I found auctex.el
skorpan
good luck with that
ralph_
and changed my load command to . (load "/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/auctex.el" nil t t)
jlf
teedex: ,,cocoa
fsbot
jlf, [->] I think cocoaemacs23 is [0] nightly builds for cocoa emacs 23 on os x http://atomized.org/wp-content/cocoa-emacs-nightly/
[1] stable build at https://cocoa-emacs.s3.amazonaws.com/Cocoa%20Emacs%2023.1.dmg
ralph_
But the behavior is the same.
isomer
anyone know how to find out the coding system of a buffer?
ralph_
Also, auctex.el is short. it only has two tiny functions which load (autoload 'TeX-load-hack
(expand-file-name "tex-site.el" (file-name-directory load-file-name)))
(TeX-load-hack)
teedex
jlf`: Ive gotton all cooca ports to compile and work but i really want to update the default installation to work ... i want to use emacs without a mouse for sometime
mfisher
tee: macports has emacs-app-devel, which is around 23.1.50.1
isomer
oh, nm
jlf
teedex: -nw ?
ralph_
If I run the autoload one manually with C-c C-e, it gives an error.
teedex
i cant help myself, i go back and change it
jlf
,yow
fsbot
I didn't order any WOO-WOO... Maybe a YUBBA.. But no WOO-WOO!
neosoothsayer
scottj: defadvice
,df defadvice
fsbot
defadvice is a Lisp macro in `advice.el'.
(defadvice FUNCTION ARGS &rest BODY)
Define a piece of advice for FUNCTION (a symbol).
The syntax of `defadvice' is as follows:
(defadvice FUNCTION (CLASS NAME [POSITION] [ARGLIST] FLAG...)
[DOCSTRING] [INTERACTIVE-FORM]
BODY...) ..[Type ,more]
Kanisterschleife
re
Mh, does anybody know if it is possible to tell viewmail to save mails into a particular folder before sending them?
I'd like to have a Sent-folder
FFighter
hello
what is the best way to keep a wiki in emacs
e1f
rgr: "Generally, a rubber strap with a buckle would be the toughest and most convenient way to hold a watch on one's wrist in the desert." http://www.tp178.com/mh/limes_review/limes_review_2.html
FFighter
with a table of contents auto-generated, camelcase links
etc
,wiki
fsbot
I think wiki is [0] a way of creating a web of documents, with a very easy way to create hyperlinks - using simple markup
[1] ... or just by using _(free links)/[[free links]]/["free links"]/etc.,
[2] Optionally, a publically editable website, such as the EmacsWiki., ..[Type ,more]
keramida
FFighter: use emacs-w3m to edit an OddMuse instance running at http://localhost/ ?
(Action) runs a wiki as the start page of his localhost :D
FFighter
karamida: Nice
But I'd like something simpler.
keramida
A wiki is, by definition, something accessible over http.
How simpler can it get than running your own lighttpd/nginx instance at localhost?
Nafai
FFighter: This is simpler: http://www.tiddlywiki.com/
abbe
keramida: do you use mod_perl ?
keramida
Not really, no
abbe: hi! I've just pinged bsam@ with an updated snapshot of your editors/emacs patch!
abbe
keramida: i've seen your mail :) thanks.
keramida
Hopefully we can commit it at last
I didn't separate the update from the WITH_SOURCES option though.
Since it works, it's fine I guess
abbe: would you be interested in testing an editors/emacs-devel patch for the new pretest too?
abbe
keramida: ofcourse :)
keramida
ok, I'll email you the patch in a few hours. Still working on the plist changes
abbe
keramida: cool. you use oddmuse with nginx ?
keramida
lighttpd
I don't really need a hugely scalable httpd on my laptop; it is rate limited by pf.conf for the outside world.
So lighttpd is more than ok
sshelagh`
x
bleh!
abbe
keramida: in CGI mode ?
keramida
Yes. FastCGI IIRC
abbe
oh, okay.
thanks keramida .
keramida
np
legumbre
,yow
fsbot
Boys, you have ALL been selected to LEAVE th' PLANET in 15 minutes!!
abbe
,fortune
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