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dim
in gnus you have posting styles
(gnus) Posting Styles
C-h i g then paste that
ecraven
dim: i know, but i prefer wanderlust, i've used gnus a long time, wl imap is superior
dim
ok
maybe there's some // concept over there
I'd like a better IMAP client than gnus myself, btw
wl or mew seem to be that?
ecraven
wanderlust :) i never got mew working well
but there's not much documentation for wl, unfortunately
mew seems to be more actively developped
jordanb
yeah imap is what pushed me off of gnus
ecraven
jordanb: whither were you pushed?
jordanb
It seemed intent on treating imap like nntp.
mutt
bremner_
ecraven: Can surely be done via a hook
ecraven
bremner_: indeed, but i'm not sure which hook, and how :) there's a wl-summary-reply-hook, but i'm not sure how to find out the recipient address from that hook
         

bremner_
ecraven: Nah some very generic setup hook. I'll look it up later
ecraven
that would be great! thanks
bremner_
Might be an setup-alist
oxi
does anyone of you use orgmode?
jordanb
,say I'm programmed in org mode!
fsbot
I m programmed in org mode!
jordanb
Which is why he can't handle apostrophes.
oxi
nice
does anyone of you have a vim background?
not just tried vim, but used it for years
jordanb
I've never stopped using it off-and-on. Always for light editing though.
Like writing my .emacs. :P
I use it less now that it's so quick to start emacs on my current computer.
oxi
jordanb: ah, I see
dim
oxi: I used to use only vim and still uses it on a daily basis
it happens that I answer a vim question to some devs @work then tell them emacs would make it easier ;)
fledermaus
,say "I'm programmed in org mode."
fsbot
I'm programmed in org mode.
fledermaus
(Action) rips jordanb's lieutenant's pips off his shoulders.
jordanb
:<
oxi
Many skilled dudes speak about the start/processing speed of their apps. But I personally feel like my tools are not keeping me from beeing fast, because the tools would be slow. The most time I lose actually with reading, learning, meetings, appointments, solving "problems".
bremner
ecraven: I was thinking of wl-draft-config-alist
isomer
jordanb: omgz hi
jordanb
Hi
crowbar
How do I save an attachment in wanderlust?
         

ecraven
bremner: i don't think that would work
crowbar: e while the cursor is on the mime part
isomer
jordanb: was in chi a few weeks ago -- wanted to meet for a beer, but alas, you were nowhere to be found online :(
jordanb
D:
ecraven
i'm just looking through the wl sources, no obvious way so far :(
jordanb
Should have emailed me.
isomer
/msg me your email. i'll let you know when i'll be back
crowbar
oh thanks ecraven. I got confused because it was prompting me with "Methods:" which turned out to be mime-save-content or wl-mime-save-content any idea how to just have one set as the default?
jordanb
jordanb@hafd.org
It's no secret. ;)
ecraven
crowbar: nope, didn't look into that yet
isomer
cool. will let you know when i'm heading back your way
ecraven
i'm still having troubles with wl and gpg/smime
crowbar
thanks.
jordanb
Neat
ecraven
crowbar: but i'll do it some day, i'll tell you when i find out, please bug me again in a day or so ;)
jordanb
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/328569692_04456f3f7b.jpg <-- Haha
Something tells me ken is going to be a disappointment.
http://images.chron.com/blogs/goodmombadmom/barbie.jpg
isomer
jordanb: ken will last until he degrades
jordanb
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JAXyOVtZ0eE/SZoFoel7jtI/AAAAAAAANwc/m60oyFQnD80/s320/tramp_stamp_biblical_love1.jpg <-- Hahaha
macdice
what is the idiomatic way to remove a symbol from a list (in particular, a hooks variable)?
tromey
remove-hook
macdice
thanks
neosoothsayer
Is there a way to lock 2 buffers, placed next to each other in a vertical manner, to scroll in step? So, one keystroke moves both buffers simultaenously?
legumbre_
neosoothsayer: M-x scroll-all-mode
neosoothsayer
legumbre_: thanks
macdice
has anyone ever done a subethaedit type system for emacs?
where people edit the same document simultaneously, over the network
i've sort of got something going, with read-only clients
of course the hard part is multi-master editing
hober
macdice: see rudel
,,rudel
macdice
aha -- thanks
fsbot
I think rudel is [0] a collaborative editing client for Emacs that understands the obby protocol.
[1] http://rudel.sourceforge.net,
[2] (unfortunately requires CEDET),
[3] be sure to get trunk from bzr instead of the release: bzr://rudel.bzr.sourceforge.net/bzrroot/rudel/trunk/
macdice
excellent, looks really nice
jordanb
How are all these people writing stuff that requires cedet? I've never actually seen cedet work!
rouslan
I have tried looking at docs and tutorials, but I cannot find a straightforward answer to a simple question: How do I enable C indentation?
I don't even really need C indentation, only something that will insert a tab after hitting return.
skorpan
rouslan: what do you mean? you want RET to insert a newline and then indent?
if so, use C-j
rouslan
skorpan: I have to hit that instead of return each time?
skorpan
rouslan: if you want, you can rebind RET to do the same thing
the function is called newline-and-indent
i don't know off-hand how to do that for C, but i'm sure someone will see this and tell you
rouslan
Found it: (global-set-key "\C-m" 'newline-and-indent)
(for ~/.emacs)
skorpan
yeah, but that will make it happen for *all* modes
rouslan
Thanks
skorpan
if that works for you, sure :)
ecraven
ok, rather simple hook on wl-draft-reply-hook works, i'll put all my wl stuff up later
mathepic
Emacs doesn't seem to be finding info files correctly; I checked Info-directory-list and it contains the /usr/local/share/info, but it does not recognize my files in there
ashawley
mathepic: Have you read ,,infopath?
fsbot
InfoPath -- at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?InfoPath
mathepic
Yeah, but the directory is listed under the Info directory, so I shouldn't need to modify INFOPATH
ashawley
mathepic: was install-info not run with the Info files?
mathepic
I believe it was (since it was packaged with Automake/Autoconf)
bremner
ecraven: I use wl-draft-config-alist to rewrite my CC, so it should be similar
e1f
(Action) has found a new way to market emacs <a rel="nofollow" href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/all_marketers_are_liars/">http://sethgodin.typepad.com/all_marketers_are_liars/</a>
bremner
ecraven: but I have to admit I didn't work out the details. If you have only a couple addresses that you want to reply from, you could add a stanza for each.
ashawley
mathepic: What's the modification date for you "dir" file?
recent?
mathepic
one second
today
ashawley
Does that file contain an entry for the info file you want?
mathepic
nope
ashawley
mathepic: Then I'd suggest filing a bug for the software package that failed to run install-info.
Adorno
hello everyone
ashawley
mathepic: In the meantime, you can run install-info yourself.
mathepic
not very useful, since im testing my own package :D
ashawley
mathepic: ahhh
mathepic: So you wrote the Texinfo sources?
mathepic
yes
I'm going to try to use the make install rather than the debian package I made to see if there is a difference
ashawley
mathepic: Perhaps we should take this to a different channel
mathepic
okay
ashawley
mathepic: How about #gnu?
mathepic
sure
Adorno
hello
i've a question: http://pastebin.com/m5f7703ce, why the tags doesn`t complete for symbols like "n_persona"
abbe
Anyone tried Keith Packard and Carl Worth's notmuch ??
fsbot
Highly likely.
abbe
ashawley
Adorno: There should be an option for etags to generate entries for the fields of data structures.
Adorno: --members ?
The_Journey
how can I make emacs faster?
technomancy
The_Journey: byte-compile and autoload.
quidnunc
The_Journey: You're asking about startup time right?
The_Journey
quidnunc: no, emacs performance overall, because I'm editing this relavtively small cpp files and the cursor is really slow
quidnunc
The_Journey: Try turning off font-lock. What kind of computer do you have?
rullie
hey folks, i'm on mac os x, C-c C-f says latex command not found. how do i fix this problem
The_Journey
quidnunc: how do I turn off font-lock?
quidnunc
The_Journey: I think its font-lock-mode
rullie: You are editing a latex file?
jlf
The_Journey: do you observe the problem even with ,,-q ?
fsbot
hmm, -q is if you start emacs with "emacs -q" and the problem goes away, it's YOUR FAULT; check your .emacs. If "emacs -q" has problems and "emacs -Q" does not, it's caused by your distro or local admin.
rullie
quidnunc: yes
quidnunc
rullie: What is C-c C-f bound to?
The_Journey
jif: let me try that
rullie
quidnunc: compiling latex? whatelse
rcy`
anyone have problems with the fonts in emacs23 on ubuntu 9.10? i just upgraded my distro, and its all a total mess
jlf
(Action) wonders which common font causes so much i vs. l confusion
quidnunc
rullie: Sorry, I don't have the keybindings for all the modes memorized. And it's been a while since I used latex-mode
The_Journey
jif: no, if I run emacs with -q the cursor moves perfectly even with a large file
jlf
The_Journey: try a ,,binarysearch
fsbot
jlf: From memory, binarysearch is Try using a binary search on .emacs to locate the cause of a problem. That is, split the file in two, either by commenting half of it out or by using M-x eval-region ononly half of it (starting from emacs -Q). Then split the problematic half in two and repeat etc.
quidnunc
The_Journey: Paste your .emacs
rullie
quidnunc: np, any idea why this is
?
quidnunc
rullie: Do you have latex installed?
rullie
quidnunc: yeah, i can run it in terminal
quidnunc
rullie: What is the exact error message/
?
rullie
google says that it has something to do with emacs not having the global PATH, how do i pass it to emacs
shabble
rullie: it's possible that your path isn't being set correctly
The_Journey
rullie
bash: latex: command not found
hober
rullie: set your path in ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist
jlf
,osx
fsbot
[->] macosx is, like, [0] redirect CarbonEmacsPackage
[1] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MacOSTweaks,
[2] to set environment variables, see http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MacOSTweaks#toc13
jlf
rullie: see also [2]
rullie
jlf: thanks
hober: thanks
The_Journey
is there something wrong with my .emacs that's causing the cursor to be really slow? http://codepad.org/9NANu3WF
bob2
The_Journey: what machine are you running this on?
The_Journey
bob2: intel with like ~760 RAM. but emacs runs perfectly with -q, cursor moves fine
bpalmer
,s/redirect/see also / in macosx 0
fsbot
Replaced string "redirect" with "see also ".
jlf
The_Journey: did you try the binary search?
The_Journey
jif: do I just do emacs binarysearch in terminal?
quidnunc
The_Journey: No, go to your emacs and comment out some of the stuff and see if the slowness is gone
The_Journey: rinse and repeat until you have isolated the problem
Is the file large?
funkenblatt
he posted it
quidnunc
Not the .emacs, the file he is editing
funkenblatt
it's quite small
The_Journey
quinunc: well my cpp file is only 200 lines
bpalmer
but with a fill column of 8,000,000 , right?
quidnunc
The_Journey: Your .emacs is so small that you should be able to find the problem in less than 5 minutes by commenting out sections of it.
The_Journey
quidnunc: ok thanks
quidnunc
I don't see anything obvious
jlf
you down with cpp (yeah you know me)
The_Journey
btw how do I quickly delete the minibuffer like when I do C-x C-f? I have to do C-Space C-a and C-w everytime
funkenblatt
C-a C-k
The_Journey
ah ok thanks
hanDerPeder
is it possible to get dired to align the output in nice columns?
fledermaus
huh?
it does already afaik.
hanDerPeder
not in my case. ok to paste a few lines to show what i mean?
quidnunc
hanDerPeder: Not in the channel
jlf
,lisppaste
fsbot
lisppaste -- [0] an auto-announcing listing host (pastebin) <http://paste.lisp.org/new/emacs>, <http://emacswiki.org/wiki/lisppaste>
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