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sachac
oxi: Once in a while, I use Emacs to edit SQL dumps, if I can't tweak it enough in sed. =)
jordanb
dim; Heh. postgre is my least hated DBMS, I gotta admit.
oxi
hehe
dim
edit SQL dumps? oh my
sockmonk
dim: I'd love to convince $company to switch to PostgreSQL, but oracle is pretty entrenched
jordanb
dim; Are you a pocket hitler though? I've never known a DBA who wasn't. :P
dim
jordanb: PostgreSQL is comparable to Emacs in that it's a development platform too
sockmonk: I know who to hire for convinving and helping there
sockmonk: which part of the world are you in?
sockmonk
Kentucky, USA
dim
jordanb: what's a pocket hilter?
         

jordanb
dim; BOFH type person
dim
sockmonk: contact CommandPrompt or PGExperts
jordanb
Someone who likes to invent rules and force other people to follow them.
dim
jordanb: oh I like to explain to devs @work that we're not going to do it their way because "I prefer when it works" and "I need my sleeping"
that counts?
oh inventing rules is not so much my thing
having low maintenance solutions and ways to get there is more what I'm after
sockmonk
dim: thanks. hadn't heard of PGExperts before
sachac
Darn, I knew I should've taken the butter out of the freezer yesterday.
jordanb
"You're going to hack the framework you're using to follow the naming conventions I pulled out of my ass"
That kind of thing
dim
they're a bunch of trustworthy guys, sockmonk, commandprompt too
sockmonk
butter -> bowl, bowl -> bigger bowl of hot water
dim
jordanb: no naming convention from me, just pushing hard the concepts to be sure that when you see the table name and columns name you figure out what it's about, and it's not a wild guess anymore
in the PostgreSQL world, a DBA isn't quite exactly doing what you find them doing with other products, I believe
for example coding a datatype in C and the indexing support, all of this an extension (no upstream source code edit, well integrated nonetheless), debian packaged and in sid/testing, to solve production issues
#emacs people, go see what PostgreSQL offers :)
kodein
the elephant
oxi
my current toolset: (La)TeX: Aquamacs / Java (EE), PHP: Eclipse / SSH, SCP: MindTerm / Shell: Terminal.app / Archive: Springy, 7zip / Graphics: Corel Draw, Irfan View / Math: Matlab, Maple
... / C#, .Net, .Mono: VS / Mail: Thunderbird / Browser: Safari, FF, IE / VM: Vbox / OS: OS X, Win 7, Debian Squeeze / Build: Make, Ant, Maven, Nant, MSBuild
... / RDBMS: Squirrel, Access, Visio, MS Enterprise "thingie" / (D)VCS: svn, hg / irc: Colloquy / im: Adium, PSi, Skype
so, I wouldn't squeeze all into Emacs :-)
kodein
oh, but little by little
oxi
hehe
dim
oxi: mine is Emacs / Conkeror / Skype, under awesome, in debian sid
that's it
jordanb
Haha 7zip
I hadn't heard of that thing in years.
Is that the one that loses files that are empty?
kodein
I wonder how much you can save by doing that?
jordanb
Heh, the european union is "underwriting" on NPR now.
rudybot,quote
jlf
rudybot_: quote
rudybot_
jlf: Let's shoot an albatross.
         

jordanb
An underscore, A CLEVER DISGUISE!
Borbus
dim: why awesome instead of stumpwm?
kodein
oh, right, rudybot exists...
dim
because it fits my need and I tried it first?
kodein
what was it it did again? I ignore it because it highlights and confuses me
Borbus: because awesome is awesome!
Borbus
I thought emacs users would prefer stumpwm because it's written in common lisp
dim
awesome is nice with emacs
jordanb
dim; You can't say that! If you use a peice of software you have to be angerly and zealotly boosterish of it.
Borbus
But you have to learn Lua to configure it
jordanb
Like Oxi with his windows junk.
dim
jordanb: ok
kodein
yeah, iunno, tbh I don't bother updating awesome anymore because it breaks my pretty basic config all the time, but it works well like I have it now
jordanb
Borbus; Yeah, learning Lua is indeed a high hurdle. :P
kodein
(Action) hasn't learned lua, only does some tweaks and adds some key combos of his own
dim
Borbus: see, there only are 2 software categories. The one helping you do your work, like Emacs, PostgreSQL and awesome, and the one you have to fight against for doing anything done, like PHP, Java or MySQL.
jordanb: better?
jordanb
dim; ;)
dim
the lua part is awful indeed
I quite managed to have jd use guile instead
Borbus
dim: agree with PostgreSQL/MySQL
kodein
ah, yeah, that's what the stdlib is called, right
Borbus
And obviously Emacs/*
dim
but he thought lua would better serve the users
skorpan
what's so wrong about lua? sounds just fine for its purpose in awesome
dim
guile would be a so much better fit
look at any lua code and tell me it looks pretty and you want to play with it
Borbus
Common Lisp > Lua, though, right
kodein
I wouldn't hate on a wm that'd use ficl for configuration
skorpan
dim: it's not that bad imo
DraX
stumpwm
go have fun
dim
Borbus: guile is scheme, not common lisp, but... well...
Borbus
I've been wanting to switch to a tiling WM for a while when I get some free time to get my head aroudn it etc
I was referring to stumpwm re common lisp
dim
skorpan: it's the only eason why I'm using about stock config for awesome
Borbus: try awesome
skorpan
dim: i don't suppose you're a fan of haskell?
Andorka
dim, http://gitorious.org/awesome-libs/awesome-libs/blobs/raw/master/upper-wibox.png
ok?
Borbus
dim: I shall give it a go
kodein
I need to make more cool wiboxen some day
dim
skorpan: haskell I can't read any line of it, I'd have to properly learn it, which ain't fun so I'm yet to do (and probably won't)
kodein
as it is now, mine just show what clients are on what tag
dim
Andorka: I'm having one fullscreen app per tag [workspace], 1 is for emacs, 2 for conkeror. That's it. :)
Borbus
That's pretty much how I use my virtual desktops in GNOME at the moment actually
Andorka
dim, i just wrote some widgets for battery status, network and weather
jordanb
rudybot_,quote
rudybot_
Let's have an oil war.
Andorka
weather from weather.yandex.ru
dim
Andorka: oh sorry that's not what I aws looking at
jordanb
It's always sunny over Putin's house.
Andorka
lol
ecraven
does anyone use bbdb for white/blacklisting and correct filing of emails into folders? preferably via .procmailrc
Borbus
dim: I kept thinking you were spelling "konqueror" wrong.. so I looked it up, conkeror is awesome!
dim
yeah I definitely like it (and used to use konqueror before)
Borbus
Can you run things like Firebug in it?
dim
dunno
Borbus
Ah it seems you can run extensions, but Firebug itself doesn't work
Well I guess I'll still need Firefox for that
jlf
,...
fsbot
[In the distance, you hear a dog bark]
legumbre_
,&
fsbot
in the distance, you see some tree bark.
ecraven
does anyone have code to tell wanderlust to use the To: address of a mail as the From: in a reply?
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