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Creationism
(Action) mans yum and looks at the provides options for ulogd
orc_orc
Creationism: ;)
LorenzoPB
chron: whenever a package isn't found through yum, you can manually add repositories to the yum.conf file so that it looks elsewhere
chron
where do i get repository lists?
LorenzoPB
chron: good ol' google searching buddy
rado_
or a priest
LorenzoPB
Does anyone have experience pushing out centos images to labs?
orc_orc
chron: man yum -- see: --enablerepo -- the content of the files in /etc/yum.repos.d/ are what you seek
LorenzoPB: /topic item 2
LorenzoPB
I already read that site
         

orc_orc
LorenzoPB: as to how to ask an intelligent question? I think not
LorenzoPB
orc_orc: Let me try again: Do you know of any strategy to allow for modprobe to automatically adapt to different hardware profiles? (in relation to a centos image push in a lab)
chron
so you can get a better repository that would actually have a package?
orc_orc
LorenzoPB: sure -- enable kudzu at install time and let it run; then ssh in and disable it once the hardware is stable
chron
that makes no sense, aren't they all mirrors?
orc_orc
chron: no - there are some repositories present in a base centos install which are intentionally not enabled - they may hold what you seek (dunno) -- and adding random repositories found by Google (as was suggested) is a recipe to hose up your host
chron
so don't
devhen
hey everyone
chron
i guess i should just use checkinstall
and checkinstall isn't in yum either D:
anyone have ulogd in their repository? can you give me your repository link?
devhen
has 4.4 arrived?!
euclid
devhen: read the topic
LorenzoPB
orc_orc: would you recommend clearing the hwconf file on the source image to allow kudzu to generate a new one on each workstation?
chron
LorenzoPB you say you use a different repository?
do you have ulogd in yours?
devhen
euclid: thanks. i thought maybe it had been released cos just now i noticed several packages available for update that were also in the rhel 4.4 update..
orc_orc
LorenzoPB: it would not hutr, with most hardware; there may be corner cases that it matters it
euclid
yes, Johnny explained it on the mailing list. They were released before 4.4 because they were security updates
devhen
ahh
orc_orc
chron: ulogd source RPMs abound - we do not ship it in centos -- the author implies he ships SRPMs: http://svn.gnumonks.org/tags/ulog/ulogd_1_22/doc/ulogd.sgml -- dunno -- as to building them see: http://www.rpm.org/hintskinks/buildtree/
LorenzoPB
orc_orc: I'm trying to think of a method where a source image of centos could theoretically adapt to any x86 hardware profile on the first boot. Similiar to the sysprep program used on windows installs
orc_orc
chron: actually the packages in FE whould rebuild trivially on centos: /mnt/nfs/var/ftp/pub/mirror/redhat/fedora/extras/SRPMS/ulogd-1.24-1.fc5.src.rpm
LorenzoPB: nfi what 'sysprep program used on windows installs' is
chron: the _do_ so rebuild trivially -- nfi if they work
         

LorenzoPB
sysprep is used by manufactures and admins to allow for the "re-initialization" of an install to reset Sys ID and other unique system settings
orc_orc
LorenzoPB: I forgot to mention: nor do I care
... but /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit will do what you expect as to accounts, and password questions if you touch /.unconfigured
(a feature modeled after one in the 'Slow-air-less' operating system
rado_
Zerberus, oh yes!!! crontab is working now!
orc_orc
pony: or was that the slow hariless operating system I wanted
pony
orc_orc, maybe you can try for a pony later
Zerberus
rado_: do you run a specific backup application?
orc_orc
ty, pony
LorenzoPB
orc_orc: interesting about the .unconfigured file
now how would I have learned that if it were not for the IRC channel?
overseer_
eSATA -- hot-pluggable on any CentOS distro yet?
rado_
Zerberus, yes, every 4 hrs at :20 after the hr on this machine...that bu system I wrote
orc_orc
LorenzoPB: maybe it is the 'SCO chair crest' OS
LorenzoPB: use *nix for a decade?
LorenzoPB
orc_orc: nope, guess i'm not worthy as you are
orc_orc: i'm prone to ask "unintelligent" questions
orc_orc
(Action) considers ...
naw -- the moment for using glue to attach the pony to LorenzoPB has passwd
pony
(Action) paws at the ground
orc_orc
don't worry, pong
rado_
the last time this specific crontab problem hit me, I had to re-install...this time y'all were the heroes!!!
LorenzoPB
orc_orc:wtf?
Creationism
orc_orc: any recommendations for a good linux supported scanner?
LorenzoPB
Creationism: what type of scanner?
Creationism
preferably USB, and flatbed.
though I'm not overly picky
LorenzoPB
I have no idea
prob better off google searching for drivers of scanners
a scanner for Mac OS X is going to have a better chance for a ported driver than a windows scanner
overseer_
the HP all-in-one's have worked well for me using the hpoj and hpijs drivers with cups and xsane
i've done scans and prints over usb and ethernet
mine's the hp officejet 7310
rado2
<sneaks back in
LuvRedheads
my mustek usb scanner works outta with out a driver
devhen
im sure most scanners work out of the box
LorenzoPB
Is there a way to run a kickstarted setup after installation?
does kudzu do something different during anaconda vs a post-install probe?
Basically, how can I get modprobe and kudzu to adapt to a completely different hardware profile without user interaction?
verboxx
hi! I installed MySql 5 for QT applications, but now the qt-mysql plugin from the repositories is too old
smanic
i still say this setup is superior
verboxx
I'm using QT 3.3 but the plugin looks for a mysql-client very old. any help?
Creationism
verboxx: where did you get mysql5 from?
verboxx
from mysql.org. first I tried from centosplus repos but I had the same problem with the qt plugin
Creationism
Interesting. the mysql5 package from centosplus has compatability libs to make sure things go smoothly.
that qt calls for a specific client would seem to indicate poor design.
verboxx
qt-mysql looks for libmysqlclient10, an old client that is not accepted by another of my servers
yes, I agree about that
Creationism
verboxx: you didn't install the compat libs then.
libmysqlclient10 is very much provided.
verboxx
don't think so
Mr_Sako
im about to order a dedicated server from someone, and for the operating system i want to use CentOS 4. but i havea choice between CentOS 4.x X86_64 Bit and regular CentOS 4.x is there any reason i woudlnt wantthe 64 bit?
rado2
Creationism; you gonna look at that find statement?
Creationism
verboxx: you need the compat libs, and you'll need to use the packages from centosplus for us to be able to help.
verboxx
but the centosplus qt-myql plugin is not working for me
LorenzoPB
anyone know of a sure way to copy over a partition table using dd?
rado2
Mr_Sako, what kind of processor?
Mr_Sako, I mean the 64 bit
Mr_Sako
AMD 3000+ Barton but i dont know if im going to get ths package i might get a different one
Creationism
verboxx: because you didn't have the compat libs or all the appropriate packages installed.
Mr_Sako
but is there ie programs that have issues on 64bit centos and work fine on 32bit
rado2
754 or 939?
socket?
I now run 2 clawhammer 939 sockets in servers and I love em!
verboxx
I'll install the compat libs to see if something changes
Mr_Sako
i know it needs to be wiht a 64 bit processor and such just im thinknig on the side of software issues. for instance in windows certain things run slower becasue of dual processors or hyperthreading etc
rado2
I don't know of any...Centos is really complete 32 or 64 bit
Creationism
Mr_Sako: yes, some applications have trouble on 64bit systems, though they're mostly desktop applications like flash.
this has been well covered on the mailing list many times.
Mr_Sako
im going to do stuff firstly run apache/mysql/php on it, thne postfix/dovecot and iptbales. then some stuff like game servers and teamspeak servers, (plus iptables firewall). im thinking i should stick to 32 bit just to avoid issues since 64 bit is generally new
does any of this stuff sound like itd have issues?
Creationism
Mr_Sako: game servers are nearly all 32bit binaries and will not run well on 64bit systems without the appropriate packages installed.
Mr_Sako
so i should just stick to 32 bit?
Creationism
Mr_Sako: have you read about this AT ALL?
or googled through the mailing list?
Mr_Sako
most the stuff on google is like wow 64 bit is faster blah blah blah its the next best thing
Creationism
I'm not talking about the ads on google.
I'm talking about all the posts on the mailing list with 32bit vs 64bit discussion.
rado2
I would go to 64 bit for server...
rewind.....I see the game server thang now
verboxx
Creationism: I'm desinstalled mysql5 and installed compat. what packages of mysql should I install now?
Creationism
verboxx: the packages you need.
but you'll probably be wanting the mysqlclient10 and mysqlclient14 packages
verboxx
I usually install server, client and shared from mysql
Creationism
then you'll want mysql and mysql-server, as well as the two previous.
verboxx
ok
LorenzoPB
if I copy the full 512 bytes of MBR using dd, will all the partitions be functional?
verboxx
I'm installing those packages now. the qt-mysql too
drgalaxy
can I install src rpms with yum on 4.3?
I guess I can just put the src rpm name from 'rpm -qi <package' into google and dl it
while I'm talking... is the rpm build process for CentOS the same as RH9?
Creationism
you shouldn't install source rpms with yum.
drgalaxy
ok
Creationism
and yes, the rpm build process is similar.
building as root is bad, some of the options are a little different
but pretty much very similar.
drgalaxy
oh you can build rpms as non-root?
I've been in debian world and postfix + mysql support package isn't avail (as far as I can tell) on CentOS
Creationism
drgalaxy: the postfix package in centosplus has database support in it.
drgalaxy
what is centosplus?
an extra repo?
Creationism
and yes, you can build rpms as non-root, you just have to set up your environment correctly. rpm.org has docs, as well as fedora's wiki.
drgalaxy: yes. centosplus is an extra repository provided by the centosplus folks that deviates from 100% RHEL compat
so it's not enabled by default, and should be used with care.
verboxx
Creationism: nope, the same problem here. Mysql is working good, but the qt-mysql client is too old for my other server
drgalaxy
oh wow you rock Creationism (literally too). thank you
Creationism
it is provided by default, just not listed.
mmcgrath
drgalaxy: you should build rpms as non root. Especially if your building srpms from an untrusted location.
Creationism
verboxx: then qt-mysql sucks.
not much that can be done about that.
drgalaxy
mmcgrath: thanks
verboxx
I didn't have the same problem with Fedora5. I had other problems, but not that one
Creationism
(Action) slips an rm -rf /* in mmcgrath's %clean
verboxx: this isn't fedora core 5.
mmcgrath
Belessed be the man who slips an rm -rf /* in my %clean.
verboxx
right. thanx anyway
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